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Proof there is more than three god(desses)

Started by Mysterious F., March 20, 2007, 12:58:36 PM

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Mysterious F.

If I insult anyone, it's not intentional, really. I do NOT say I know the reason everythnig exists, that's a complete lie, because I think that there is no true purpose for anything.

This is becoming debgateful, let's move it to PM.

Commodore Axilon

#31


And how did this turn into this big religious discussion?

Mysterious F.

#32
I randomly thought of several questions that were indirectly used to imply they could be more than one religion in Hyrule's World, like how there's 5 main religions in our wolrd (Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Judeasm) and several smaller religions. (Taoism, Confucianism, Shinto)


darkphantomime

Kannochi, that was an abuse of mod powerrs, my post had EVERYTHING to do with the topic,  since your the one that introduced religion. There was nothing offensive about that post. So you really had no reason to delete except for your own biases and opinions.

Mysterious F.

I was about to delete mine too you know.  :-* (I had other stuff to do, such as write the next chapter down for my story on Microsoft Word and eat dinner.) Yours was actually the first post SOLEY on religion.

darkphantomime

Are you mad because I told you about how you shouldn't assume that you know everything? Mad because I told you how my brother told me that there are people smarter than oneself?

Don't lie, Kannochi, the post wasn't completely about religion. I even mentioned something about Mesopotomian culture along the lines of "The Code of Hammarabi" and "The Tale of Gilgamesh".

I'd like to see your evidence for the claims you make.

YOu even deleted the post where I answered YOUR questions about the religions. That is a VERY bad abuse of mod powers, when I was actually trying to direct points on your conceptions on Religion.

Mysterious F.

Actually, I'm a tough person to anger. It'll take a while before I get ticked off. (which is something that really annoys other people, who get angry quite quickly)

Wait, I thought those codes WERE religion. (I may be a history buff, but actually, I find this part of history rather boring)  :-*

Actually, I pretty much removed everything that delt with the religion thing, look around the whole topic.

QuoteMad because I told you how my brother told me that there are people smarter than oneself?

I don't understand how that could get me angry, seeing as I don't know your brother, or why someone telling you (pronoun for JQ Pickwick in this case) you're not the smartest person in the world too.

I don't know everything, either. Personally, I rather NOT want to know everything. Knowing everything is a physical impossibility because of the loss of information through time and the unimportance of most events in history. And by knowing anything, I'd have to be bothered by everyone, who'd want to know other things they don't. And the only way it is possible for someone to know everything is through the loss of emotion, which would create a wall that would block you from this goal.

darkphantomime

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Well, just because you find them boring is still no excuse to delete posts that were ACTUALLY contributing to the discussion.

The Code of Hamarabi deals with LAW, not with religion.

The Tale of Gilgamesh is an epic that shows details of the Mesopotomian culture. That they are 'religious' (In your opinion) is beside the point.

And you pretty much insulted all the christians here when you said that they've forgotten the name of God. Do not assume something when you, yourself cannot vouch for it, and openly deny knowledge related to it.

And just so you know, I'm an atheist, but I am not an ignorant person whom disreguards the point of religion relating to philosophy and history.

And you know something I've seen in a lot of the topics made by you? I see that you keep putting forth things and people ask you for evidence, but you really don't give any evidence. You even go to the point where you assume that YOU are the one who speaks for people's opinions. Things like the Global Warming topic, this topic, and the american idol topic. Just because YOU believe it, doesn't mean that everyone else believes it. And quite frankly, I'm tired of your attempts at obscuring other people's opinions when they are simply trying to contribute to the discussion.

Mysterious F.

Actually, I said most. (I once even asked my grandparents, and they didn't know, either)

And the fact I thought that they were religion was because I had no idea what the ywere and thought, since it was brought up during this discussion, it was Mesopoatmian religon.

Zelda Veteran

Alright, let me just say something here. I have recieved a few complaints about power abuse. Kannochi, I think you're handeling this the right way, all except for the fact that you deleted posts that have clear contribution to the discussion at hand. I would have already been angry, but I like to view both sides of the issue and come to a sensible solution. I agree with JQ that you didn't leave any notification that you deleted posts, and you should really let it be known why you deleted said post, and when. I also agree with that fact that you're handeling this in a calm manner. It was a good theory, and could use some research, but until more evidence is provided, there is nothing we can say for sure. Thats all I have time to say for now, I'm on a strict time budget. Thanks.

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MasterKeyX

And with that, I say we get back on topic, and maybe let this go to rest, or at least into PMs.


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Evilslayer

QuoteIt was my understanding that the three goddesses left after creating Hyrule. At least that's how it was told in OoT.

1. It's a legend.

2. The 'Creation' legend has already been contradicted, so why not this one too?

3. We don't know how long they remained before they left. The Deku Tree says that they left after their labours had been completed, but do we know that's immediately after the supposed Creation? By his use of words it may seem like it's immediately afterwards, but again, it's a legend.

4. They may have later descended to 'Hyrule' in mortal forms. Jesus, anyone?

I don't believe the Oracles are the Goddesses, but I'm open for the possibility.

DW

Very good points, Evilslayer. Yes, I think it would make sense for the Oracles to be the Jesuses of the Goddesses...
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Marcamillian

It can't be disputed that there are other gods sheerly on the virtue of the gods of wind in WW. Though i think anyone would agree that the gods of wind in particular arn't of the same calibre as godesses that can create entire worlds (i think you have to trust in the ledgend, if you dont you could distrust bacically anything said about the histroy of hyrule in any game by the same reasoning), and thus it would lead you to believe that there must be a lower "pantheon" of gods which would justify a separate godess of sands (time im not entirely convinced on as it seems a bigger deal that some sand or wind).

Just a thought actually, could the lower pantheon be "spirits". Spirits tend to be a alot more specific than the traditional "omnipotant" gods, thus bringing in a spirit/god of wind etc. Could the duku tree even be a spirit, being as he is ... a talking tree and not really a "creature".

Mysterious F.

Jabu-Jabu/Jabun is a god, as said by the Zoras.

So, we have seven god(desse)s:

Din (Goddess)
Farore (Goddess)
Nayru (Goddess)
Sand Goddess
Goddess of Time
That frog thing in TWW (God)
Jabu-Jabu/Jabun (God)