Split or single

[Master Dragmire]

Oh I thought you were talking about me  

[Penguin dude 2]

I forgot if LttPs Link was a legendary hero. Possibly the Hero of Men. Remember= possibly. So is there an argument for the single timeline theory?

[Evilslayer]

Oh, bullsh*t. The spirit Faron specifically states those are the legendary hero's clothes.

And does he say which Legendary Hero? I didn't see him mentioning the Hero of Time. In fact, that title is never used in the game at all.

[Commodore Axilon]

Yeah, yeah. But of course conventional wisdom places TP directly after OoT, and I was arguing with that in mind. I admit, he could be referring to some other hero.

[Penguin dude 2]

Is there an argument for the single timeline? If not, I'm gonna lock this in 3 days. And thats not a threat, thats a statemnet of fact.

[Commodore Axilon]

Is there an argument for the split timeline that doesn't rely on false assumptions and circular logic?

The problem here is that even with any evidence for either side, you still can't rule out the other one. I mean it is a fictional world that's continually expanding, people. You can never be sure about anything.

[Penguin dude 2]

There is evidence for the split timeline, seeing as Twilight proved that, showing 200 years later Ganon being sealed in the Twilight Realm, and having 2 endings to OOT, and having Ganon being sealed in the Sacred Realm in Adult timeline. I've seen your timeline, and it's impossible. The Twilight and Sacred Realms are 2 different places. If we went with yours, Ganon couldn't switch seals. Also, he just recieved the ToP when he got the sword in him, and in OOT adult timeline, he had it since you went to the future. And you still haven't offered a single piece of evidence for the single timeline.

[Commodore Axilon]

Since you apparently saw the cutscene of him being sealed in the Twilight Realm then you must be aware that he wasn't in their beforehand. So I'm completely clueless as to what you think you're proving here. You're aware he could've gotten out of the Sacred/Dark Realm, yes? It's not like he hasn't done it before.

Edit: Oh, and I have this crazy theory that it wasn't even the same Ganondorf. Though it suffers from a bit of a lack of evidence, it's still interesting nonetheless.

And where do you get the idea that he only got the ToP when he got stabbed? How do you know he didn't have it beforehand?

Edit2: Waitaminute, how does this prove the split timeline again? You think the fact that it just popped into his hand (at least that's what you say happens) proves the split timeline...how exactly?

And you still haven't offered a single piece of evidence for the single timeline.

And you still haven't listened to a word I've said.

[Evilslayer]

I must agree with Commodore Xigbar. I'm a splittist myself, but the only real evidence for the Split Timeline is Aonuma's recent statement (well, recent for us Westerners ), and not everyone takes creator quotes based on the timeline as canon.

To those people the Single Timeline is at least as likely as the Split Timeline.

[Penguin dude 2]

Yeah, he got out of a seal he was never in(kid timeline)? That makes absolute sense. And where would he get the ToP from if the Door of TIme was never opened and tghe Master sword never removed? And it's kinda hard to go back to a seal you escaped from AND from being dead. So, whats your argument for the single timeline? I really want to hear something besides you attacking the splitters and not defending yourself.

[Commodore Axilon]

Yeah, he got out of a seal he was never in(kid timeline)? That makes absolute sense.

You assume the Sacred Realm exists on the same plane of existence as the normal world. We already know Rauru was ageless (or at least couldn't die) while inside. Is it that much of a stretch to assume it's independent from the world's temporal workings?

And where would he get the ToP from if the Door of TIme was never opened and tghe Master sword never removed?

See above.

And it's kinda hard to go back to a seal you escaped from AND from being dead.

I can't even understand what you're saying here. Clarify please.

So, whats your argument for the single timeline? I really want to hear something besides you attacking the splitters and not defending yourself.

So, what's your reason for not understanding my position? I really want to hear something besides you attacking me and not bothering to read my posts.

[Penguin dude 2]

Did you even beat Twilight Princess? Ganon died. He also lost the Triforce of Power. But in Ocarina, he was trapped in the Sacred Realm. He got out of that for his job in TWW. In Twilight, he was sealed in a place entirely different. That place was called the Twilight Realm. And even if he got back to life and his seal in the Sacred Realm, how would he get the Triforce of Power back. And you say I just don't read your posts? I can't answer them if I don't read them, smart one. And you still haven't given even one piece of evidence of the single timeline, while you continue to attack the split timeline, no matter how many times I ask. Do you even have one? Or are you just going to try and deflect the question again?

[Commodore Axilon]

Did you even beat Twilight Princess? Ganon died. He also lost the Triforce of Power. But in Ocarina, he was trapped in the Sacred Realm. He got out of that for his job in TWW. In Twilight, he was sealed in a place entirely different. That place was called the Twilight Realm. And even if he got back to life and his seal in the Sacred Realm, how would he get the Triforce of Power back.

Do you know how many times Ganon has died? Death is like a minor inconvenience akin to a head cold to him. Have you ever played a Zelda game before?

And if he really lost the ToP wouldn't it have stayed there, not faded away? When someone loses a Triforce Piece it doesn't just disappear, it stays there. You know, like it does in TLoZ, ALttP, and TWW.

And you say I just don't read your posts? I can't answer them if I don't read them, smart one.

Obviously, but you apparently can't comprehend them.

And you still haven't given even one piece of evidence of the single timeline, while you continue to attack the split timeline, no matter how many times I ask. Do you even have one? Or are you just going to try and deflect the question again?

I suggest you go back and read my previous posts.

[Penguin dude 2]

Yes he died. He WASN'T sealed back in the Sacred Realm. Did you see the ToP hanging around after he died? I know I didn't. In LttP, the wholoe thing was behind Ganons room. In TWW, It probably went above the waves, or went back to its holders. The only time it actually hangs around is in LOZ. I didn't see one of your posts giving evidence to th single timeline. You just deflected the question. Again. So, for the last time, what is your argument? If you deflect the question again, I'm declaring victory for the split timeline, and locking this topic.

[Commodore Axilon]

Yes he died. He WASN'T sealed back in the Sacred Realm.

Because I totally remember someone in TWW saying Ganon escaped from the Sacred Realm.

Oh, wait...

Did you see the ToP hanging around after he died? I know I didn't.

Yeah, that was only my whole friggin' point. *rolls eyes*

In LttP, the wholoe thing was behind Ganons room.

Yeah, I don't remember ALttP that well, so you might be right about this one.

In TWW, It probably went above the waves, or went back to its holders.

I meant before that, when he gathers them to form the whole Triforce.

The only time it actually hangs around is in LOZ.

But he died, right? So it must have disappeared!

I didn't see one of your posts giving evidence to th single timeline. You just deflected the question.

And I don't remember saying I ever had any evidence for it. If you'd actually read my posts then you'd understand this.

Again. So, for the last time, what is your argument? If you deflect the question again, I'm declaring victory for the split timeline, and locking this topic.

I've already stated my opinion of the matter, and if you're going to be a petulant child about it then fine. "Declaring" yourself the winner won't help you in the slightest.