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Started by Mr. bubbles, October 02, 2007, 02:59:02 PM

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Fishalicious

Quote from: Whocares on October 07, 2007, 12:33:22 PM
I think they should be unhumanlike, rather than exactly like us with a few minor exceptions.

Uhhhh what do you mean "they should?" If we don't know how they look, then... well, take it like this:

Fisk: That puppy shouldn't look like that.
Seme: Why?
Fisk: Because puppies should have all their limbs.

Fisk: That salamander (referring to the fictional fire lizard, not the amphibious one!) shouldn't look like that.
Seme: Why?
Fisk: Because everyone knows salamanders have two legs.
Seme: That's not necessarily true; it's a fictional(/non-discovered in this case) animal, so there are a lot of different ways of imagining them!

I'm sure "aliens" exist, but I wouldn't think they're little green men, or would try to travel and visit earth, or make crop circles...

Zoratunic

Quote from: JQ Pickwick on October 07, 2007, 12:49:07 PM
Any species that has advanced to the point of interstellar space travel, must by rational implication, be enlightened enough not to use violence. At least that's the way we would generally think about it... It's generally a collary rather than a set fact where we have evidence to support it.
Like several othe people have stated, even if they had the technology to travel the universe, that doesn't necessarliy mean they are peaceful in nature. This can be seenthrough examples in human history, such as the European exploration of the Americas.

DW

I like how arguing about whether aliens exist really changes whether they do or not.
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Mysterious F.

Hmmm, lets see if I exist!

*Bites hand*

Yep. I exist. Otherwise I'd go through myself. And yes, I really just did bite my hand, it wasn't a joke.

I suggest you look at Wikipedia's extraterrestrial life article, as it lists planets likely to have forms of life on them.

Fishalicious

Wikipedia isn't a reliable source of information....

Er, the whole thing about that would be the fact that they might be able to support life on the planets. As in, there is a chance that they might, or they might not.

Honestly, I'm not sure exactly why people care so much about whether or not aliens exist; I'd rather know what exists below the sea, I mean, it's closer to us and we know less about it that space... not to mention I think it's more important to know what's on... you know, our planet.

Thirty years from now, I'd like to have light bulbs... and if something under the sea can help us keep our light bulbs, then goddammit, let's explore the sea!

not to mention some fish look more alien than I could ever possibly hope to imagine

Mysterious F.

The sea is basically a large body of wtaer with fish, squid, octopus, and other aquatic life living in it. Oil and other natural resources can be found there in some places.

You know, Fisk, there's WAY more to learn about space than about the ocean. Other life. Conditions of planets and moons. Learning exactly how our universe was created (please don't respond to that by basically throwing religion into everybody's faces). With seas and oceans, all we can learn is more species, which has a 7 out of 10 chance of not having any real importance, and find resources that will only burn away with time. Space has infinite possibilities.

And if you think Wikipedia isn't a reliable source, then stop whinning about it and join to make it what you call a reliable source, like I did. Simple as that.

Commodore Axilon

Quote from: Fisk on October 12, 2007, 03:34:32 PM
not to mention I think it's more important to know what's on... you know, our planet.

And? We can't do both at once?

Quote from: Whocares on October 12, 2007, 04:37:25 PM
And if you think Wikipedia isn't a reliable source, then stop whinning about it and join to make it what you call a reliable source, like I did. Simple as that.

Or maybe, you know, accept that it's a terrible source. Saying something isn't a good source doesn't give you some divine imperative to make it better.[citation needed]

darkphantomime

For one thing, you're generalizing about what is in the sea. You could make the exact same statement about space, that space 'is just an emptiness full of dust and matter'. But everything has inherent complexities - there is a lot more that we don't know about the sea that we should know. The sea can be extremely strange, as it not only is a place, it is a thing that has direct influence over the environment, with the delicate ecosystems everywhere, if the balance becomes erupted in that ecosystem, it directly effects us.

There is a mystery and an intrique in both space and the sea, but the sea is so strange, the life in the sea is so strange, still too much we don't know, just as most of us don't know the mysteries in the blacks of space, the same is true of the darks of the sea.

Fishalicious

Space is only an empty hole with little to no gravity. Not very many natural resources there, either.

I'm not trying to say that space exploration is stupid... but... er, we know more about deep space than we do about deep ocean. Not that it's a bad thing, but we're more likely to cheaply get natural resources in the ocean... there's thousands of species, HUGE amounts of pressure, etc... and we could get food there, too.

You need food and natural resources to explore space. ^^; Well, effectively explore space. Not to mention the pressure under water could help with low-pressure things, like space and vacuums.

Did you know Sharks are immune to Cancer, AIDS, and other highly deadly things we humans often die of? We could get the cure for cancer from sharks. We could end the cancer regime.

Scientifically, both areas are debatably high in information. Fish hold a magic to them; they're immune to several diseases, and we use fish for so many things! Food, medicine, cosmetics, science... Space rocks don't hold as much rich information. And if we found aliens, I doubt anything good would come of it. "HEY LOOK AN ALIEN... LETS SEE IF IT CAN TALK." "IT CAN'T." "CUT IT OPEN AND SEE IF ITS INSIDES ARE BLOO! 8D"

I'm not whining about Wiki; the owner said Wiki isn't a liable source of information, due to the fact that people can go in and edit it. Not that I agree by any means...

Commodore Axilon

Quote from: Fisk on October 12, 2007, 04:53:28 PM
I'm not trying to say that space exploration is stupid... but... er, we know more about deep space than we do about deep ocean.

No we don't. I don't think you realize just how vast space is.

alex

hmmm.
if you really do think about how HUGELY VAST space really is, theres got to be other life out there somewhere, theres like a bagillion stars just like our sun...
SCARRRRYYYY

Fishalicious

Space is vast, yes; and I suppose I was wrong in saying that we know more about it than deep sea. However, the sea, too, is vast. And it effects us more than space (not that space doesn't effect us.) so I think it's just a little bit more important. Keep in mind that this is just my opinion, not trying to destroy anyone else's opinion.

Mysterious F.

... Okay... if we knew sharks were imune to cancer, AIDS, etc. ... why haven't the scientists done anything yet?  ::)

darkphantomime

They HAVE. But it's not so simple as 'magically' transporting the shark's ability to a human.

DW

Yes, Shark and Human DNA isn't exactly what you would call 'similar'
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