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If Hyrule Were On Earth...

Started by Vaati, July 06, 2008, 04:32:41 AM

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Twilight Wolf

I believe there were actually humans in... was it the "Oracle" games? Not just Hylians or Gerudo.
What, you expect me to say something witty?

MagmarFire

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Quote from: Shika on January 20, 2009, 01:55:35 AM
Counter points:

2.) NEVER can two different groups of stars make the same pattern.
4.) Hylians? Gerudo?
5.) Prove it. I don't remember this.

2.) So you agree with him?
4.) That depends on your stance on what species Hylians and the Gerudo are. However, JoeLink, how do you know that humans exist only on Earth (I agree that it's unlikely that it isn't true, but seriously)? The universe is vast; there's no telescope powerful enough that can prove your point.
5.) That's because they weren't referring to Earth as a planet at all. They were, in fact, referring more to a level of existence.

Grammar rule, JoeLink: if one refers to Earth as a planet, Earth is capitalized. If someone is not, or if the word the precedes it, then it isn't. In Makar's quote, earth is clearly not capitalized; therefore, he wasn't referring to it as a planet.

And don't say that Nintendo made a typo. I'm not going to buy that.



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JoeLink

For number 5.), where did you hear that?! It can mean the same thing both ways. You don't always see the earth capitalized in science books, but they still refer to the planet earth.

And what other planes of existance called "earth" are there. I am pretty sure there can be only one.

Hi no Seijin

Quote from: JoeLink on January 19, 2009, 06:28:32 PM
Where do I begin?.... :D
1.) Earth flora and fauna
2.) constellations in the night sky only visible from Earth (casseopia, Orion, the big dipper.)
3.) the sun rising in the east and setting in the west
4.) humans (only found on Earth. durr.)
5.) characters in TWW referring to the planet Earth (not earth as in dirt, the PLANET EARTH.)

If these don't convince you, then....I feel sorry for you. :(
1-5)  It's a giant universe.  There are bound to be coincidences.  After all, I am not the only person on Earth named Nathan.  I know because in sixth grade I shared a class with a Nathan H.

2)  I'm sure, given a clear night in the country, I can find the Big Dipper several times; sure, they would all be different sizes and vary slightly in shape, but they would still be there.

4)  There are humans in Star Wars.  By your logic, everything about Star Wars must be true.

Humans are constantly used in several fictional settings that are not Earth because humans are so familiar.  It's usually easier to associate with a human or someone from a humanoid race than someone from a non-humanoid race because they (the human or humanoid) are so familiar.

Besides, can you prove that humans only exist on Earth?  Are you capable of interplanetary travel?  The latter question goes to Point 2 as well.
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JoeLink

I don't think it is possible for the exact same species to evolve on one planet, then evolve on another planet. :-X

Plus, i believe Star Wars is entirely fictional. As for Hyrule, well....I have my own beliefs. ::)

Uximadesk

Ahm... it is called east because the sun comes out of it. However, it is true that since Earth and Hyrule DO have similar day-night pattern, they might be related.
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MagmarFire

Quote from: JoeLink on January 20, 2009, 03:16:28 PM
For number 5.), where did you hear that?! It can mean the same thing both ways. You don't always see the earth capitalized in science books, but they still refer to the planet earth.

And what other planes of existance called "earth" are there. I am pretty sure there can be only one.

It sure can, but that's why you're going to have at least some people disagree with you. Besides, a lot of times I think of science books using earth is when the article the is before it. They could still be talking about the planet Earth, but if the word the is before earth, it is lowercase, regardless of its actual meaning.

I find it obvious that Makar was talking about being alive in that quote, so it's quite figurative speech he was using. Whatever the case, there was no the, so it doesn't invalidate my counterpoint. Not that it disproves yours, of course; but my points are still not proven false, either.

Regarding the point about Hyrule's rotational axis, in physics, the frame of reference observed by someone is an important concept. If you merely use the earth as a frame of reference, of course the sun's going to rise in the east and set in the west. Because the only frame of reference we have to lean on is the earth, we can't make a definitive conclusion as to exactly how the planet rotates on its axis in relation to the sun. Regardless of how any body spins, if you use the body as its own frame of reference, the sun will always rise and set in this way, unless you change the compass rose.



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Uximadesk

For that I have to theories, either Hyrule's day-night cycle match Earth's or Hyrule's axis is oriented towards the sun but has the insanely fast year cycle.
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JoeLink

Why can't you people see the truth? :(

Hyrule is/was on Earth. But, go ahead, you can keep believing the illusion that it is not. ???

MagmarFire

If you want us to believe you, you need to provide definitive proof or give really strong support. So far, you have, unfortunately, failed to do so. :/

Quote from: Mikaudes the Joker on January 20, 2009, 08:35:59 PMFor that I have to theories, either Hyrule's day-night cycle match Earth's or Hyrule's axis is oriented towards the sun but has the insanely fast year cycle.

What do you mean when you say that its axis is oriented toward the sun?



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Hi no Seijin

Quote from: JoeLink on January 24, 2009, 01:34:46 PM
Why can't you people see the truth?

Hyrule is/was on Earth. But, go ahead, you can keep believing the illusion that it is not.
Why would historians fail to include Hyrule in the history books if it actually existed?  If Hyrule did exist, especially around the time of the Roman Empire, then odds are we would have definitive proof of it's existence.

We see the truth.  Sorry to burst your bubble, but Hyrule is a fictional place, and no amount of wishful thinking is going to change that.
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Darth Wyndisis

If Hyrule was real, does that make the goddesses real?  The Triforce?  When Ganondorf got a hold of the Triforce and Link was locked in the Temple of Time for seven years, why did he just stick to conquering Hyrule?  Why not the whole world?

HylianHero92

Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 24, 2009, 05:19:06 PM
We see the truth.  Sorry to burst your bubble, but Hyrule is a fictional place, and no amount of wishful thinking is going to change that.

It's all just good fun. You didn't seriously believe Hyrule could exist, right JoeLink? Right?

Uximadesk

Quote from: MagmarFire on January 24, 2009, 04:55:32 PM
If you want us to believe you, you need to provide definitive proof or give really strong support. So far, you have, unfortunately, failed to do so. :/

Quote from: Mikaudes the Joker on January 20, 2009, 08:35:59 PMFor that I have to theories, either Hyrule's day-night cycle match Earth's or Hyrule's axis is oriented towards the sun but has the insanely fast year cycle.


What do you mean when you say that its axis is oriented toward the sun?
Argh! It's hard to explain without a drawing.
Imagine the rotating axis of the Earth, ours is 67 degrees (I think) away from the Equator, that area of the planet that is closes to the Sun. Now imagine the axis aligned with the equator, and the planet in question making a lap around the sun every 24 hours. But now that I think of it, it would make the Sun to appear to be spiraling in the sky as it approaced the Horizon. How cool would that be?
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TP Zelda

I haz several ways to prove that Hyrule is NOT on Earth (though, these could be proved wrong or w/e too) and Magz im sorry if i use "earth" wrong XDX

1. If Hyrule was on earth, they would have mentioned something about it in History books.
2. If Hyrule was on earth, then wouldn't the races still be around? (Zora's, Gorons, Gerudos, etc)
3. If Hyrule was on earth, then wouldn't things pop out of the ground at night?
4. If Hyrule was on earth, then wouldn't some people have semi-pointy ears and know a little bit about their Hylian (as in their language lol that probably sounded stupid)?
5. If Hyrule was on earth, wouldn't fairies and things still be around?
6. If Hyrule was on earth, why don't we see Link around town/in the park/any time in our lives?
7. If Hyrule was on earth, would there be a lot of Links/Zeldas/Ganons/Zoras/Gorons/etc be running around? Or would it just keep following the storyline or w/e?
8. and If Hyrule WAS ON EARTH, how do you explain the Master Sword/Triforce? Wouldn't people be going after them all the time?

lol i know a lot of this is stuff that can be all like "well they could be extinct" and shizit like that but then weher are the ruins? XD