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If Hyrule Were On Earth...

Started by Vaati, July 06, 2008, 04:32:41 AM

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I guess this is one of those cases where you don't have proof that such thing doesn't exist, after all, there are myths about living golems and mermaids. We do not, of course, have a solid evidence that proves that TLoZ is more than a mere piece of the 8th art (yes, I consider making videogames has become art)
And TP, this must feel horrible coming from a mexican, but your grammar makes my brown eyes hurt, it's "If ____ were ____, it would ____" , not "If____ was_____......"
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Don't worry People have recognized Shigeru Miyamoto as one of the worlds 8 new Einstiens.

Imagine the power he holds over Children...

Also as much as I wish hyrule was a Real place I must admit it cannot be real.

TP Zelda

Mikaudes: Eh, I only say whaat sounds right xD

And I must agree with Chuck.

JoeLink

#33
Okay, here's some reasons why I believe Hyrule could've been a real place:
1). In TWW (which is obviously the last game in the timeline, not counting PH), most of the people(if not all of them, except the spirit of the king, and the guardian spirits) had forgotten about Hyrule, the Triforce, and Ganon. So that forgetfulness could've carried on to this day. :-\
2). The creator of the zelda games mentioned he was inspired to make these games because he explored caves near his hometown during his childhood. WELL, who's to say he didn't FIND something in one of those caves, perhaps an ancient BOOK of some sort that when deciphered, told him the stories. Maybe he kept the book a secret, but told the stories as video games....HMMMMM?! ::)
3.) Most of the races in Hyrule obviously went extinct after the Great Flood (which if I may point out WAS recorded in a certain religion), which is why we don't see them today. :-X
4.) AND FINALLY, there is no Hero Chosen By the Gods around today because the earth hasn't needed one. Ganon is safely sealed underneath the ocean by the master sword for all enternity(or so I hope..... :o).


Yeah, you can call me crazy, and you know what....I'M PROUD OF IT!!! :P
After all, it takes courage to stick with your beliefs, no matter how far-fetched others may think it is. You people remember that. :D

Hi no Seijin

3)  Several religions and mythologies tell stories about a great flood that covered the whole world.  Here's the thing though:  back in ancient times, the known world was smaller than the known world today.  These floods that supposedly covered the world could very well have been smaller than the whole world.  Furthermore, to my knowledge, there is no evidence that the whole world was flooded while humans existed.

Besides, even if a flood is catastrophic, it wouldn't completely destroy evidence of human civilization; if Hyrule ever did exist on Earth, there would be evidence of it.  And there simply is no evidence that Hyrule existed.
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#35
I know, but I believe that this Great Flood didn't cover the whole world. It only flooded Hyrule( and possibly Holodrum and Labyrnna), by raising the sea level in the Mediterannean(where I believe Hyrule was located), and after hundreds of years of underwater corrosion, it would severely alter and destroy many of Hyrule's landmarks(plus any remaining areas would become covered with coral, algae, and other sea-life).

DW

Quote from: JoeLink on January 25, 2009, 11:09:05 AM
Okay, here's some reasons why I believe Hyrule could've been a real place:
1). In TWW (which is obviously the last game in the timeline, not counting PH), most of the people(if not all of them, except the spirit of the king, and the guardian spirits) had forgotten about Hyrule, the Triforce, and Ganon. So that forgetfulness could've carried on to this day. :-\
2). The creator of the zelda games mentioned he was inspired to make these games because he explored caves near his hometown during his childhood. WELL, who's to say he didn't FIND something in one of those caves, perhaps an ancient BOOK of some sort that when deciphered, told him the stories. Maybe he kept the book a secret, but told the stories as video games....HMMMMM?! ::)
3.) Most of the races in Hyrule obviously went extinct after the Great Flood (which if I may point out WAS recorded in a certain religion), which is why we don't see them today. :-X
4.) AND FINALLY, there is no Hero Chosen By the Gods around today because the earth hasn't needed one. Ganon is safely sealed underneath the ocean by the master sword for all enternity(or so I hope..... :o).


1.) This isn't even close to valid evidence of anything. I highly doubt we'd forget every single shred of that culture.

2.) Because no child would keep something like that a secret.

3.) I fail to see how Humans could survive when all the other races are unable to. There are no fossils of these other species, either.

4.) Once again, a completely invalid point that offers NO evidence whatsoever.



QuoteYeah, you can call me crazy, and you know what....I'M PROUD OF IT!!! :P
After all, it takes courage to stick with your beliefs, no matter how far-fetched others may think it is. You people remember that. :D

Hey, guess what. Humans can give birth to zebras if they want, they just need to think of zebras every night while they're pregnant. Nothing you tell me will convince me otherwise. This makes me courageous.
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JoeLink

Okay....now you're just talking SUPER crazy, BEYOND crazy even. ;) And whos to say a child can't keep a secret like that?

Link kept the secret of the Triforce when Zelda asked him to in OoT. It could be a reflection of the secret that the creator kept.

That is just me PURELY theorizing though. But it could be possible( I think). Also, do you know how RARE it is for a good fossilized specimen to form, and do you also know how HARD(if not impossible) it is to find fossils at THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN?!?!?!?!?

DW

Quote from: JoeLink on January 25, 2009, 08:38:49 PM
Okay....now you're just talking SUPER crazy, BEYOND crazy even. ;) And whos to say a child can't keep a secret like that?

Link kept the secret of the Triforce when Zelda asked him to in OoT. It could be a reflection of the secret that the creator kept.

That is just me PURELY theorizing though. But it could be possible( I think). Also, do you know how RARE it is for a good fossilized specimen to form, and do you also know how HARD(if not impossible) it is to find fossils at THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN?!?!?!?!?

If Link didn't keep the secret it could have been the end of the world. If this dude had revealed this book he would be rich and famous and a hero.

So rare that entire civilations are unformed? And I suppose they just toss all their dead bodies into the ocean?
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TP Zelda

I'm neutral on this, so technically I'm on my own side. But here's my theory to back up Joe:


The flood could have covered all of Hyrule and it's surroundings, drowning everything (all the races, knowledge, any books containing any evidence, etc.) And if that's true, all this stuff could be washed away to the middle of the ocean, they could also be dissolved (like the books, scrolls, anything) or they could be covered in algae and the likes. They could also be in the dark depths of the ocean. I mean, think of how much ocean there is.
Now think of how deep it is.
That's where everything could be.
The deepest, darkest, most secretive depths of the ocean.

:D

Feel free to disprove me.

Hi no Seijin

Quote from: JoeLink on January 25, 2009, 08:38:49 PM
Okay....now you're just talking SUPER crazy, BEYOND crazy even. ;) And whos to say a child can't keep a secret like that?

Link kept the secret of the Triforce when Zelda asked him to in OoT. It could be a reflection of the secret that the creator kept.

That is just me PURELY theorizing though. But it could be possible( I think). Also, do you know how RARE it is for a good fossilized specimen to form, and do you also know how HARD(if not impossible) it is to find fossils at THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN?!?!?!?!?
Granted, water is an awesome, destructive force, but let's look at this one thing I said earlier:
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 24, 2009, 05:19:06 PM
If Hyrule did exist, especially around the time of the Roman Empire, then odds are we would have definitive proof of it's existence.
If Hyrule existed around the same time of the Roman Empire as you claim, then the Romans would have noted its existence, and we would have proof of Hyrule's existence.  But we don't.

And TP Zelda, you are not neutral; you explicitly state that your theory backs up Joe.
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Darth Wyndisis

And if Hyrule was in the Mediterranean Sea, and flooded because the water level of the sea rose, think of what else would have been affected by that flood.  Even a couple hundred feet of water would have a drastic effect on the surrounding continents.  Cities along the coast would be covered in water, and if that ever happened there would be a ton of evidence.

JoeLink

But I believe that before the Great Flood, the Mediterannean Sea had a lower sea level than today.

Oh, and I don't think Hyrule had much contact with the other continents.

And if the creator of the zelda games had told this secret, the knowledge of the Triforce could've started another war( World War III anyone?), just as it did in Hyrule.

:D

Hi no Seijin

*headdesk*

Oh, yeah, sure, Hyrule would have contact with Labrynna and Holodrum, but no one else.  If a nation is going to adopt a policy of isolation, it's not going to make exceptions.  And even supposing it had no contact with other nations, that's not to mean that other nations wouldn't notice it.  After all, the ancient Romans conquered all of the lands surrounding the Mediterranean; it would be kind of hard to miss a medieval-style castle (ZOMG!  ANOTHER INCONSISTENCY!!!!) and surrounding areas of civilization.
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Quote from: JoeLink on January 26, 2009, 05:28:19 PM
But I believe that before the Great Flood, the Mediterannean Sea had a lower sea level than today.
That's what I'm saying.  Do you honestly think that there wouldn't have been any people living along the coast of Europe or Africa when the sea level was lower?  Let's say Hawaii is Hyrule.  Global warming attacks and the sea level rises, covering up all of Hawaii except for the highest points.  It's not just going to affect Hawaii, it will effect the whole rest of the world.