Discuss E3 2008!

[Twilight Wolf]

The whole Gamecube thing wasn't entirely Nintendo's fault; it was the third-party developers who were under the impression that the Gamecube was a "kid's console." Why this was, I have no clue. Nintendo still worked hard to make some quality games for it, though, and they succeeded in that regard. Most of the third-party developers that did stick with the Gamecube, however, made an effort to make their games high-quality, so there are a good number of very enjoyable third-party games for the Gamecube as well.

The Wii, however, is different. Nintendo decided to give the "casual gamer" (just a phrase for non-gamer) audience a shot, and once they saw how much money they made, they didn't care about the gamers at all any more. The third-party developers that didn't like the Gamecube had no reason to support the Wii at all now, and the small third-party companies flocked to the Wii, because they knew that no matter how little effort they put into their games, they'd still sell enough for them to make a profit, all because of the  Wii label on the box.

[kamakaziplumber]

So, um, Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, Metroid Prime 3, and SSBB don't count for anything anymore?

I have to agree with COMM-E. I was disappointed, but, I haven't lost all hope in Nintendo just because they don't have any news right now. My friend gave a pretty good explanation of it, if you'll allow me to paraphrase: typically, Nintendo likes to announce games that are well into production at E3. The only reason we're seeing these games today is because they're well into production and such. So Zelda and Mario aren't far enough into production to be touted as the next best titles for Wii... it's only fair to give Nintendo some slack. I mean, we just got a new Mario game last year, and I seem to remember people thinking it was absolutely amazing. That's better than Gamecube did.

And only recently we've had new Zelda games. We're not fans who get games every year, we have to wait a good while to get new Zelda's. I was disappointed by the lack of Zelda news, but, I haven't suddenly lost all hope in Nintendo because of it. It's not like they'll stop working no Zelda forever just because in E3 '08 there was no news on a new game...

[DW]

They're just video games anyways...it's not that big of a deal.

[HylianHero92]

Isn't that basically the same thing they did with the Gamecube, though? A bunch of mediocre third-party ports with a smattering of first-party titles in between.

The point is we're not getting a smattering of 1st party titles!Sure, Wii Music and Wii Sports are 1st party titles, but they're complete crap! What everyone is so mad about is that they don't have any Zelda, Mario, Metriod, Star Fox, etc. for us! Not to mention, the Gamecube failed miserably.

[MagmarFire]

It didn't do that much worse than the XBox.

[Twilight Wolf]

KP: I'm not saying that Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, Metroid Prime 3, and SSBB don't count for anything. I only own two of those games, and I very much enjoy them, but those games you mentioned, along with a few others, are pretty much the only decent games on the Wii. Except for Mario Kart Wii and Metroid Prime 3, I think that between my sister and me, we own every Wii game worth anything.

Shika: Video games are my life, so it is a big deal to me.

HylianHero92: I wouldn't quite say the GameCube failed miserably, but it sure didn't do the greatest.

[darkphantomime]

So basically it's the end of the world in nintendo fanland because they just started and only announced a couple of games for the wii?

Is E3 even over yet?

[Twilight Wolf]

It was the end of the world for Nintendo Fanland long before E3, JQ. This pretty much just confirming that Nintendo doesn't care about anyone but the non-gamers any more.

[HylianHero92]

The thing I'm mad about is that Nintendo promised they would bring new titles that would " maximize their key franchises". Since when has Wii Sports been a Key Franchise? When they said they'd be maximizing their key franchises, I thought they meant Mario, Zelda, Metriod, etc. It's not that Mario Kart, Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Metriod Prime 3, and SSBB weren't enough, it's because of the fact Nintendo promised a new Mario/Zelda/Metriod and everyone expected a new Mario/Zelda/Metriod title that everyone is mad! I don't know about you guys, but I was waiting on the edge of my seat for any Zelda news. It's just like ZV said in the Project Deluge topic, They must have some Zelda news for us!

[darkphantomime]

Heh... I don't really feel like buying any Xbox 360 or PS3 games... So I'm not sure where to sit around on this here.  I'm not into First person shooters or Sandbox environments, so right now the Wii and DS are getting my money. The DS, especially is getting a LOT of good games. Like remakes in 3-D of Dragon Quest IV, V, and VI, as well as Final Fantasy IV. And then there's FFTA2.

While the Wii has weak titles at the moment, the DS still looks strong for me.

[Twilight Wolf]

The DS has been strong for a while, and I can see it continuing to be that way, in spite of all of the shovelware. Unlike the Wii, there are two titles I'm looking forward to on it: "Bangai-O Spirits" and "Trauma Center 2."

Has anyone heard anything about the PS3 yet? New retail configurations... anything?

[Gamefreak]

The DS has Gyakuten Kenji and Gyakuten Saiban 5 coming up.

[Twilight Wolf]

Well, so far, all I can tell is that the base-model PS3 will now have an 80 GB HDD for the same price... But does it have any backward compatibility?

[Fishalicious]

Squeenix went with Microsoft in the end, if I recall correctly. Which is strange, considering I didn't watch it.

So, essentially, the PS3 is good for oldsnake and as a conversation piece. ... And Silent Hill 5, but it's coming out for the 360, as well, making it moot.

...Actually, I think I heard something about MGS4 coming to the 360, which would make the PS3 not useful for oldsnake.

[Twilight Wolf]

MGS4 would never work on the 360 for one reason: Kojima himself said that the 50GB Blu-Ray disc isn't big enough to hold MGS4. It had to be compressed or something. If 50GB isn't enough, there's no way an 8GB Xbox 360 DVD would hold it. Just helping to kill an internet rumor here.

I hope they're packing a Dualshock 3 in with the PS3 base model... I'm almost 100% sure that they are, but still.