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Pokemon Heartgold/Soulsilver.

Started by The Glamour Nazi, March 23, 2009, 01:06:51 PM

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Deku

You guys are completely forgetting about Scizor. When I played competitively, he was a BAMF. Almost every team I came across in metagame was either packing a Scizor, or a Pokemon to counter Scizor.

It has also been to my experience that a fully leveled Dragonite, Gengar, or Umbreon will never do you wrong. I used an Umbreon in my team as a Toxic Trapper, and he did wonders. Gengar is almost guaranteed to take out at LEAST one pokemon on the other team. His superior speed enables his destiny bond to be used to full effect. Thunderbolt, Psychic, and Confuse Ray are the other moves I'd recommend for him. Dragonite doesn't need explaining. He's just that amazing.

That being said, you should definitely consider a "Dragon Flak Cannon"(a fast ice type). For Dragonite, I'd recommend Earth Quake, Dragondance, Dragonclaw (for your STAB move), and for the later move, do whatever you want. I'd recommend a healing move like Rest, or if he can learn it (I can't remember) Recover.

With that kind of Dragonite, You can deal with any pokemon except for ONE pokemon who is resistant to your attacks. Skarmory. I think that's pretty good odds.

The Glamour Nazi

But using a dragonite to win is something anyone can do, I prefer long torturous battle with moves like spikes, toxic spikes, stealth rock, and of course, a para flincher team.

I forgot to mention Scizor, but it's 5x weakness to fire, a commonly used type is enough to set it down a bit.

A good water type is Lapras, Marshtomp if you think you're against more electric than grass, but blizzard or ice beam fixes that, or lastly Starmie because it's just awesome looking with pretty good stats.

Overall marshtomp is the best if you can get an ice beam out fast enough.

Also note 1HKO are also banned from competitive play usually, but it never hurts to ask.

Deku

Quote from: Tom Satan Bombadil on May 25, 2010, 11:01:47 AM
I forgot to mention Scizor, but it's 5x weakness to fire, a commonly used type is enough to set it down a bit.
One weakness vs Ten resistances. I'd say that's good. First of all, they have to start with a fire type. Here's what happens if they don't(assuming your Scizor is using technician):

Turn 1:
Scizor- Swords dance
Lapras- Switch to fire type

Turn 2:
Scizor (if slower than opponent)- Bullet Punch (130 B.A.P. + Technician)
Scizor (if faster than opponent)- Brick Break (130 B.A.P. + Swords Dance)
Fire Type- Most likely dead.

If you think you're up against a severe disadvantage somehow, U-Turn can do some decent damage coming from a Scizor, especially if it has been sword danced once. He can learn Roost as well. A good Scizor can sweep entire teams like Kingler used to do in his day.

The Glamour Nazi

There are still better things to use. Skarmory for one. But Togekiss too cause it is capable of a roosting, paraflincher and it's fast enough to pull it off.

I'm actually not much for creating teams like this but the pokemon I do use have all the bases covered and are pretty well EV trained.

Also try those fighting move on any flying fire types and it won't work. GARizard all the way.

MagmarFire

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Quote from: Hi no Seijin on May 25, 2010, 08:36:29 AM
Then again, there are vitamins I could use, right?

If I recall correctly, vitamins only work until the point where a Pokemon's EV count of a particular stat reaches 100. EVs go up to 255.

However, the Battle Frontier (in Platinum, at least) sells bands that ensures a gain of +4 EVs for a particular stat every time a Pokemon is defeated, the side effect being that it reduces Speed for however long it's being held.

Quote from: Tom Satan Bombadil on May 25, 2010, 11:01:47 AM
I forgot to mention Scizor, but it's 5x weakness to fire, a commonly used type is enough to set it down a bit.

2 * 2 = 4. :P (6 if you include the STAB.)

...My apologies. I like math.



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The Glamour Nazi

The actual thing is (DMG*5)*1.5

Deku

Well, Trick Room teams are fun. :)

Hi no Seijin

I think I still have a Lapras.  I know I have a Starmie.  But if you think Marshtomp is my best bet for a Water Pokemon, then someone is going to have to trade me one.
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Well I'm not going to lie I'm going into a pokemon tourney this sat out in Dallas and it's double battle... My first two pokemon to send out are Magikarp and Snorlax, My side party for the first round will be Gengar and Typhlosion. Along with them my last two registered pokemon will be Sneasel and Tyranitar. Either way I'm going for the shiny Eevee XD
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The Glamour Nazi

Quote from: Hi no Seijin on May 25, 2010, 09:25:07 PM
I think I still have a Lapras.  I know I have a Starmie.  But if you think Marshtomp is my best bet for a Water Pokemon, then someone is going to have to trade me one.

I have a mudkip so i'll trade you my marshtomp if we ever meet at a tournament.

MagmarFire

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Quote from: Tom Satan Bombadil on May 25, 2010, 05:29:13 PM
The actual thing is (DMG*5)*1.5

That...doesn't make sense. O.o

Bug is weak against Fire (x2), and Steel is also weak against it (x2). That's a quad weakness, not a quint weakness, since 2 * 2 = 4 != 5. As far as I know, Scizor doesn't have a unique handicap that buffs that by 25%, unless I'm wrong.

If I recall correctly, there should be an ability out there that only makes a Pokemon weaker to a particular type. I'm not sure what that is exactly or if Scizor has it, though.



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Hi no Seijin

Quote from: Tom Satan Bombadil on May 26, 2010, 06:22:56 AM
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on May 25, 2010, 09:25:07 PM
I think I still have a Lapras.  I know I have a Starmie.  But if you think Marshtomp is my best bet for a Water Pokemon, then someone is going to have to trade me one.

I have a mudkip so i'll trade you my marshtomp if we ever meet at a tournament.
Maybe if I knew when one was, I could find a way to get out there.  Until then, there's either Wi-Fi, or since we live in the same city we could meet at Central Library; I'll be there Friday and Saturday this week.

Either way, is there a certain Pokemon you'll want in return?
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The Glamour Nazi

Not particularly.

I may go if I don't have work. I gotta make sure my mudkip is bred corrextly though.

Also when I hear about a torunament I'll pm you.

Edit: Sorry mags, I got mixed up.

Hi no Seijin

Thanks, Chuck.

Mags, Scizor can have either Swarm or Technician.  Neither makes him weaker to any type.
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Quote from: Tom Satan Bombadil on May 26, 2010, 08:52:42 AM
Edit: Sorry mags, I got mixed up.

No, don't apologize. For all I knew, there was a hidden mechanic I didn't know about. ;D

And win those tourneys when you get there, you guys. Win for TDC. *raises fist*



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