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Started by Takun, June 27, 2009, 10:59:50 PM

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Keaton

Quote from: Hi no Seijin on July 11, 2009, 09:04:34 PM
That's a movie called Ghostbusters.

Although they did make an animated series from it, didn't they?

They did.

He, however, is probably referring to the show Ghost Hunters, or the show "the Othersiders", which is if 4kids did Ghost Hunters.

Ghost Hunters is legit.  Othersiders is sensationalism at its worst.

Takun

Actually...poltergeists are not ghosts...poltergeists are caused by people un-knowingly giving off large ammounts of phychic energy in a single moment. Thus causing something to move. Usually caused by teens during puberty or while they are going through a lot of stress.

Sometimes I see them. Sometimes I just feel them watching me. Or following me around the house. They arnt orbs, or blurry images. They look just like we do, but they look transparent. Like you see em but you dont. And no, theres no change in temp. I just suddenly start to feel like Im being watched, or I'll suddenly get this vibe of emotion.

I've heard them on several occasions. And i've tried talking to them, and there's only been one instance in which they "replied".

Im not a religious person. I dont believe that religion decides weather or not a spirit stays or goes.

My aunt said that she used to see a woman in a nightgown when she was a little girl and lived in the same house I live in now. And when she went to a phycic the lady told her that the spirit is somehow tied to our family from the 1800s. As for the other three, I have no clue.
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Keaton

Quote from: Takun on July 11, 2009, 09:21:48 PM
Actually...poltergeists are not ghosts...poltergeists are caused by people un-knowingly giving off large ammounts of phychic energy in a single moment. Thus causing something to move. Usually caused by teens during puberty or while they are going through a lot of stress.

That's a debatable theory :\

Paranormal activity is sounding slightly less likely, but I would recommend further investigation, just in case.

Takun

im probably just insane. im sure the medication will help.
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FunTykoon

No, I was talking about the show where they go to college and it's called Paranormal {something}.

FunTykoon

Quote from: Takun on July 11, 2009, 09:44:38 PM
im probably just insane. im sure the medication will help.
(sorry for the double post)

No. You are not insane. Ghosts are a widely accepted fact. Your aunt saw this also, so calling yourself insane is going to far.

alical

Quote from: FunTykoon on July 11, 2009, 09:46:38 PM

Ghosts are a widely accepted fact.

No offense but I don't think that is true. I'm not saying it's fact that ghosts don't exist I'm just saying "fact" is much too strong a term for it. There is no concrete evidence either way.

And Takun you're not insane :3 . There is a huge range of explanations for this sort of thing, whether it be psychological, scientific, paranormal or whatever. I'm sure it'll all work out fine.

MagmarFire

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Quote from: Takun on July 11, 2009, 09:21:48 PM
Im not a religious person. I dont believe that religion decides weather or not a spirit stays or goes.

You mean be exorcism? If so, you clearly haven't seen A Haunting.

Quote from: Kevin on July 11, 2009, 09:36:39 PM
Quote from: Takun on July 11, 2009, 09:21:48 PM
Actually...poltergeists are not ghosts...poltergeists are caused by people un-knowingly giving off large ammounts of phychic energy in a single moment. Thus causing something to move. Usually caused by teens during puberty or while they are going through a lot of stress.

That's a debatable theory :\

More like a breach in the definition of poltergeist:

Quote from: dictionary.compoltergeist: n
a ghost or spirit supposed to manifest its presence by noises, knockings, etc.

Quote from: AliCal on July 12, 2009, 09:53:21 AM
No offense but I don't think that is true. I'm not saying it's fact that ghosts don't exist I'm just saying "fact" is much too strong a term for it. There is no concrete evidence either way.

So...anectodal evidence doesn't count?



Advanceshipping and Rion had better be Chuck Norris approved.

alical

#38
QuoteSo...anectodal evidence doesn't count?
?
Anecdotal evidence always gives an unreliable conclusion, no matter the veracity of the evidence. It can't be used alone to say something is fact.
Look, I'm just saying it isn't a FACT that ghosts exist, just as it isn't a FACT that they don't exist.
I don't mean to offend anybody's beliefs.

MagmarFire

Oh, you're basing on it being scientifically inconclusive? I'll give you that, I guess.



Advanceshipping and Rion had better be Chuck Norris approved.

Takun

Quote from: MagmarFire on July 12, 2009, 09:55:33 AM
Quote from: Takun on July 11, 2009, 09:21:48 PM
Im not a religious person. I dont believe that religion decides weather or not a spirit stays or goes.

You mean be exorcism? If so, you clearly haven't seen A Haunting.

Quote from: Kevin on July 11, 2009, 09:36:39 PM
Quote from: Takun on July 11, 2009, 09:21:48 PM
Actually...poltergeists are not ghosts...poltergeists are caused by people un-knowingly giving off large ammounts of phychic energy in a single moment. Thus causing something to move. Usually caused by teens during puberty or while they are going through a lot of stress.

That's a debatable theory :\

More like a breach in the definition of poltergeist:

Quote from: dictionary.compoltergeist: n
a ghost or spirit supposed to manifest its presence by noises, knockings, etc.

Quote from: AliCal on July 12, 2009, 09:53:21 AM
No offense but I don't think that is true. I'm not saying it's fact that ghosts don't exist I'm just saying "fact" is much too strong a term for it. There is no concrete evidence either way.

So...anectodal evidence doesn't count?

Most of the library research I've done has told me that poltergeists  were not caused by spirits, because spiris do not have the ability to throw or move objects. I've read that they can make noise, but cant do anything like move objects.

I've seen A Haunting. Im skeptical about half of the episodes. And from what I have seen, there have been cases in which religion only made things worse, because the spirits realized you were attempting to remove them. Its just not in my beliefs.

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MagmarFire

Be that as it may, your description of poltergeists simply does not match the definition provided. Plus, to make sounds, something has to be manipulating a medium in a way that disturbs its atoms, such as energy being transferred to the air. For something like that to happen, you need to make contact with it in one way or another. In other words, creating a sound invariably means moving an object, even if it's slight movement.

In that case, too, if it's accepted that something like that can make noise, it's feasible to make a conclusion that energy variations coming from such an entity can range from the low setting (mere sound) to the high setting (more noticeable kinetic motion).

Quote from: Takun on July 13, 2009, 10:37:59 AM
I've seen A Haunting. Im skeptical about half of the episodes.

What about the other half, then?



Advanceshipping and Rion had better be Chuck Norris approved.

darkphantomime

I just want to point out how ridiculous it is that you're using A Haunting as a basis for what you should do in this case.

A haunting is fiction, leave it at that.

Keaton

Quote from: JQ Pickwick on July 13, 2009, 01:29:05 PM
I just want to point out how ridiculous it is that you're using A Haunting as a basis for what you should do in this case.

A haunting is fiction, leave it at that.

I have to agree with you there.  There are many more reliable sources out there :\

MagmarFire

Quote from: JQ Pickwick on July 13, 2009, 01:29:05 PM
I just want to point out how ridiculous it is that you're using A Haunting as a basis for what you should do in this case.

A haunting is fiction, leave it at that.

It's funny how you say my argument is without basis when you yourself don't provide evidence to support your argument that mine's crap. You could try that, you know.



Advanceshipping and Rion had better be Chuck Norris approved.