Your Continuity theory?

[Jack]

What do you think the true timeline of the Zelda games is, and why?

I'll spare you my own, it's well documented.  ;)

[Marin]

OOS>OOA>MC>OOT>MM>LoZ>AoL>ALTTP>FS(GBA)>FS(GCN)>LA>WW

I was convinced by Master Gorons topic that MCis before OOT. I tink WW will always be the last game unless theres more with the great sea. I think that its the same LInk in the FS games as in ALTTP.

[Master Goron]

I've already given my partial theory in the other thread in here, so here's the whole thing:


1. OoA: In MC, Nayru is a descendant of Oracles from Labrynna.
2. OoS: In MC, Din comes from the land of Holodrum
3. MC: The origin of Link's hat, creation of the Four Sword. Vaati is searching for a "Light Force."
4. FS: Has to come sometime after MC, because of the four sword.
5. FSA: Vaati is reborned, Four Sword is reused.

Until this point(to my knowledge, correct me if I'm wrong) the Tri-Force hasn't been mentioned in context.

6. OoT: Has been the first, Nintendo said it was, let's put it here.
7. MM: A sequel to OOT
8. ALttP: Seemingly taking place after OOT, Ganon is trapped and sends Agahnim to bring the Dark World to power.
9. WW: After the events of ALttP, the Goddesses bring a fury of rains an flood the land.
10. LA: After sailing from the flooded Hyrule, Link discovers the island, and it is destroyed at the end.
11. LoZ: After destroying Kohilint Island, Link ends up in this New Hyrule, and defeats Ganon again.
12. AoL: This is the sequel to LoZ, so it has to go after it.

I don't know how you guys like it, but it flows. My only two problems are the fact that Link has his hat in the Oracles (but this could be a different Link), and that Biggoron is a legend in MC, and I don't know if he made an appearance in the prior games.

Edited to add Majora's Mask.

[Jack]

Biggoron is in the Oracles games, Minish, and of course OoT and MM (I think...).

I really like your timeline though, MG, how it splits up Hyrulian time between before the Triforce was discovered and after.

[Marin]

Well I havent gotten throgh the oracles yet, I just bought them so im not sure were to put them.

[Evilslayer]

I think that its the same LInk in the FS games as in ALTTP.

Not very likely. In FSA Ganon is originally a Gerudo and he's a new enemy. In ALttP he's sealed in the Dark World, and there he's been for centuries. Plus, in FSA the maidens has REAL power. In ALttP they have lost their powers.

Anyway, my timeline theory goes like this:

OoT->MM->TWW->Zelda'05->LoZ->AoL->ALttP->LA.

I don't consider the Capcom games a part of Nintendo's timeline before I get some proof. One reason is that TMC argues with the legend of the creation of the Master Sword.

TMC, if it's a part of the timeline, can only be placed before OoT. So, it should take place about the same time the Master Sword was forged, right?

Here's the problem. The Picori Sword/Four Sword also have the power to repel evil AND it's powerful enough to defeat Ganon. Why forge a new blade like that when there already IS one?

The reason why I place ALttP after AoL is first of all because of Miyamoto's statement. Secondly, it's because of the seven Wise Men in AoL (yes, I know there's eight, but Old Kasuto was destroyed and the survivors built New Kasuto) and the fact that there's seven Wise Men in the legend at the beginning of ALttP. If you don't believe the badly translated English version, then look at the screenshots. They are all Hylians, and not of different species. There's little doubt in my mind that the seven Wise Men in the legend are descendants of the seven Wise Men in AoL.

As for TWW, the Deku Tree STATED that the Koroks were planting trees on the islands because as the forests grew, so would the islands. Therefore, they WILL revive Old Hyrule one day.

Yes, I know that Daphnes Nohansen wishes to the Triforce to drown Hyrule, but take a closer look. The Triforce splits up. What did Zelda say in OoT? That if one with a heart that's not in balance touches the Triforce it will split up. What did she also say? That if their heart is not in balance their wish won't come true.

Besides, I have this theory that if the wish of the one who touches it is not in balance their wish will last for seven years, but then fail.

Let's say if Link really is ten years in OoT. Then he should be 17 in the alternate universe. I'm pretty sure that he's old enough to be the Hero of Time when he's 16, or 15. So, why didn't he awake one or two years earlier? ???

[Master Goron]

OK, but FSA was made by Nintendo, and I wonder how you can place it there without MC or FS...

[Evilslayer]

That doesn't mean it's a part of the timeline. Tetra's Trackers was also made by Nintendo, y'know. ;)

[Master Goron]

And Tetra's Trackers would be? I've never even heard of it...

Although, I don't see why they would make a game that didn't fit into the timeline. Oh well, your choice.

[Jack]

Tetra's Trackers (sometimes called Navi Trackers) was a game that was going to be a stand-alone puzzle game featuring the pirates and Tetra, and then it was going to be in Four Swords Adventures. It was eventually cut from the American version.

I have a little write-up on it if you want to check it out.

[Master Goron]

The link didn't work... all I got was the little AIM guy.

But OK, thanks. I guess if it was part of FSA, you could group 'em together or something.

[Master Goron]

I made a new timeline, it goes like this:

Ocarina of Time      400   
Majora's Mask      401   
The Wind Waker      1000
Legend of Zelda      1030
Adventure of Link                   1031  
Oracle of Ages      1100
Oracle of Seasons                   1101
The Minish Cap      1145
Four Swords      1146
Four Swords Adventures   1147
A Link to the Past                   1200
Link's Awakening                         1230
                 
(The dates are guesses)
What do you guys think? Also, does anyone know any facts from the games that contradict this timeline? That would be great to know.

The one's I'm having the hardest time placing is ALttP and LA.

[Evilslayer]

Contradicts? Well, I suppose the legend of the Hero of Men kinda contradicts. It's about that time the Hylians got their powers, so it's without a doubt before OoT. And TMC is directly linked to that legend. It's the same way as ALttP is linked the the Imprisonning War, OoT is linked to the Great War and TWW is linked to the Flood.

And in FSA, the Gerudos kicks Ganon out of their village because he's evil. That hints that it's before OoT because they didn't do that in OoT. I believe that's because in OoT Ganon is already too powerful.

Anyway, I have a new timeline theory. I've decided to accept the Capcom games as a part of the timeline (and henceforwards I refer ton FSA as HA, as that's actual name for the quest. FSA is also Shadow Battle and Tetra's Trackers, in Japan).

And I'll also add dates, although there aren't any official dates.

0- Din, Nayru and Farore creates Hyrule.

808- Hero of Men (Link I) defeats Ganon and his hordes of evil with the Picori Sword and the Light Force.

1688- Link II goes on a quest to defeat Vaati and break the curse on Princess Zelda II.

2078- Vaati returns and kidnaps innocent maidens. An unknown hero appears, wielding the legendary Four Sword. He defeats Vaati and the Four Sword is christened and laid to rest in the Four Sword Sanctuary.

2756- A mysterious person (Shadow Link) appears and kidnaps the seven maidens who protects the Four Sword Sanctuary. Link III takes the Four Sword, which results in him freeing Vaati. He goes on a quest to resque the maidens and defeat Vaati, but eventually discover he has to face an older and far more eviller villain before all is over.

3009/3689- Hyrule is in a Golden Age. During this period the Master Sword is forged.

3965/3990- The Great War takes place. After centuries of chaos, a King unifies Hyrule into one kingdom once again.

3996/4003- Link IV goes on a quest to collect the Spiritual Stones. Seven years in the future Ganon has conquered Hyrule and Link has to awaken the Sages. At the end, Zelda sends him back to his own time.

3998- Link IV travel to Termina and saves the land from a falling moon. Afterwards, he return to Hyrule.

4699- Ganon somehow return to Hyrule and wages war on the kingdom. The people has no choice but to pray to the Goddesses, who commands a few chosen to seek refuge at the mountaintops when the flood the lands with pouring rain aand seals it under the ocean.

5388- Link V goes on a journey to save his sister, Aryll.

6975- It is not known if this is in a resurfaced Old Hyrule or in New Hyrule, but a Golden Age comes to close when a King dies and his son, whose heart is not in balanced, becomes King. A wicked wizard casts a sleeping spell on Princess Zelda VI.

7556- Ganon somehow returns and invades Hyrule, winning back the Triforce of Power in the process.

7608- Link VI collects the eight shards of the broken Triforce of Wisdom and defeats Ganon.

7616- A mysterious mark appears on Link VI's hand. He goes on a quest to return six crystals to the Palaces of Hyrule, in order to dispell the barrier that protects the Great Palace, where the Triforce of Courage is. Link VI breaks the curse on Zelda VI.

8211- Link VII travels to Holodrum and Labrynna to save the two countries.

9005- Ganon declares war on Hyrule and attacks Hyrule Castle. Seven Wise Men seals him off into the Dark World.

9556- Link VIII goes on a journey to win the three Pendants of Virtue and the Master Sword, which he needs to slay the dark priest, Agahnim. With his last breath, Agahnim sends Link to the Dark World where he travels to the seven palaces to rescue the maiden and eventually defeat Ganon.

9558- When he's out sailing, Link VIII enters a thunderstorm and when he awakens he's on an island the inhabitants call Koholint. To get away from the island, he explores eight dungeons to win the eight instruments he needs to wake up the Wind Fish.

This theory needs some explaining. According Zelda in HA, Ganon is the reincarnation of an ancient daemon. That's why I put him as the main enemy in the legend of the Hero of Men.

This theory is based on Miyamoto's statement that ALttP takes place after AoL, which I think makes perfect sense. *cough*The Wise Men*cough*

[Master Goron]

ALttP can't be before OoS and OoA because the master sword is in both those games, but at the end of ALttP it says the master sword sleeps forever.

I also believe that LoZ and AoL come before MC because the Four Sword is a beefed up White Sword. That explains the backstory of MC.

And I know ALttP goes before LA(at some point) and that LA takes place in the Great Sea. But I can't seem to place it near enough to WW to make sense.

[TLF]

well....it's kinda hard because basically it's way to long   ;D xD