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Your Continuity theory?

Started by Jack, February 22, 2005, 05:03:31 PM

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Evilslayer

If you read the whole time I actually DID come up with a placement for FS and FSA. Because I believe Agahnim probably is a Zuna I found it fitting to be some time after ALttP.

Mysterious F.

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Sorry, I didn't read the whole thing, but now I found a flaw. It says that, in LTTP, there was a horrible time of terror when Agnahim appeared. The sages couldn't find a source, and the king offered a reward to anyone who could save the kingdom. Agnahim then used strange magic to save the kingdom. Also, if you check out the Agahnim is Ganon topic in the LTTP section, you'll lose the thought of Agahnim being a Zuna. It's hard to keep the timeline together now.

P.S. Where would LA be in the timeline?

darkphantomime

Allright, I have somethings to point out in this site's "Official"" History of the chronicles of Hyrule. I noticed quite a few flaws in how some elements of older games are reproduced and retconned as happening before the game where it originally came from. IE: That Link's uncle is in both LttP and the "Retconned" previous chapter. That doesn't really make ANY sense, because we have his uncle dying twice and Link not knowing about the whole thing.

While interesting, the entire Four swords saga should be disregarded completely, as it creates too many paradoxes from this game and LttP as happening twice, if that history were taken for thought and fact.

I honestly wouldn't take the original game as happening at all... Because too many elements from that game are featured in other games, esp. in Windwaker with the whole collect the triforce shards thing.

My whole outline of the history would be as such:

1. Ocarina of Time
2. Majora's mask
3. War post-Link's disappearance
4. Twilight princess (it should be this way since it's specifically stated that TP takes place AFTER OoT)
5. Several Centuries pass
6. Windwaker
7. Couple generations pass
8. Minish Cap
9. The Oracles Saga
10. About a century Passes
11. LttP
12. Link's Awakening
13. A few generations pass... with events leading up to Zelda II
14. Zelda II and the final long-awaited return of Link, or a possible descendant.

Granted, some of these might also be flawed, but this timeline at least removes some repeating paradoxes.

After the great flood, wouldn't the Garudo tribe be nonexistant?
It really makes more sense for it to be that way...
One more thing, some of the dungeons numbers in the history at this site are wrong.

Zelda II has 6, not 8 dungeons
Zelda I has 9 dungeons, the eighth was on Death Mountain, but NOT Spectacle rock. And some of this should be more clear about the Sheikah's sins and blood spilt as mentioned in the Shadow temple of OoT. Someone should really get creative and go into detail about that...
Like giving events PRIOR to OoT.

Any comments?
Email me here:
darkphantomime@yahoo.com

Evilslayer

Zelda Vetran, both of your points are based on mistranslations. The Wise Men sealed the 'source of evil' (the King didn't command them to do anything in the Japanese version), and Agahnim is Ganon's HAND, which hints to him being controlled by Ganon rather than being his alter ego.

Hi no Seijin

Quote from: darkphantomime on August 02, 2006, 12:05:14 AM
While interesting, the entire Four swords saga should be disregarded completely, as it creates too many paradoxes from this game and LttP as happening twice, if that history were taken for thought and fact.
It's a Zelda game.  It's going to have paradoxes.  And the paradoxes kind of make Zelda a good game to think about it, even if it gives me headaches sometimes.
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darkphantomime

I've honestly never played Four swords... I just decided to comment on what this site has as it's 'official' timeline. By the way, where'd they come up with that land to the west of Hyrule, Ce- something?

Hi no Seijin

Calatia?  I don't think that land can be considered canon.  I know it was menioned in the Valiant comics.
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darkphantomime

Seriously, man, that thing needs to be changed in order to make it all have some sense instead of conflicting paradoxes...

Anyway, If someone made a game featuring the war of Hyrule before OoT, what do you think it would be like? Personally I think it would be rather morbid and gothic. I always thought of that time as a time of blood lust and death... Remember the shadow temple where all those walls talk to you and you hear voices?

Zelda Veteran

Yeah, that was awesome! And It would be really cool to actually fight a gigantic war, with knights of hyrule fighting alongside you. If you've watched the trailor for TP you will notice some awesome horseback combat scenes. The war would be like that, only a lot thincker with monsters. Possibly a meter to show how long you have to fight to draw them back. It would really be cool. Also, great points Darkphantomime! :)

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Knil

My timeline is this

OoT=>MM=>TP?=>ALttP=>AoL=>OoS/OoA=>LA=>LoZ=>WW=>PH?=>MC=>FS/FSA?

I put TP after MM cuz Nintendo said it would, but i'll probably change it.I put ALttP right after OoT because it's almost the exact same game. The reason I put Aol==>La is cuz I think AoL link was just a random kid then when he finished his adventure, Zelda, or the Triforce, sent him to Holodrum then Labrynna cuz of the story. Because at the begining of OoS/OoA someone or something said accept are  challenge hero. Then I think he was a star and decided to return to Hyrule. Then he did the LA quest.After that, I think he got lost at sea. I put Loz before WW cuz at the begining of WW it shows Ganon coming from the Death Mountain. WW happens, Link and Tetra/Zelda go find a new Hyrule. Ph happens maybe? I dunno. Then they land of the mainland of the Minish Cap that's why I think Link and Zelda are good friends. I haven't played the FS series but I think it takes a while after MC cuz Vaati's back. 8) 8)Confusing? :-X :-X ;D ;D

Nabooru

Quote from: Knil on August 14, 2006, 12:45:10 PM
My timeline is this

OoT=>MM=>TP?=>ALttP=>AoL=>OoS/OoA=>LA=>LoZ=>WW=>PH?=>MC=>FS/FSA?

I think this is pretty close bu I dont think fsa is last, I think TP is and I think LoZ is before LA

Knil

Makes sense. That's why I put the ? after FS/FSA cuz I haven't played those games( no friend who likes Zelda). The only reason I put Tp after MM is b/c Nintendo said it would go there and of the horse, but we can't know for sure. AoL=>OoS/OoA=>LA would make more sense after WW. I put it before LoZ to give Old Hyrule a bigger geography.

Nabooru

Yeah I havent either but I know thee story of fsa. I didnt know mintendo said that. I always pictures it last...Did they say directly after? Or sometime after?

Evilslayer

QuoteOoT=>MM=>TP?=>ALttP=>AoL=>OoS/OoA=>LA=>LoZ=>WW=>PH?=>MC=>FS/FSA?

That timeline doesn't make sense. For one, there's the same Link LoZ as in AoL. That's stated in the manual. The Link in the Oracles can't be the same because the Triforce is separated and hidden in an ancient castle (which I believe to be North Castle) while it was whole at the end of AoL.

Impa is also vastly different, and she doesn't recognize Link.

Jack

Quote from: darkphantomime on August 02, 2006, 12:05:14 AM
IE: That Link's uncle is in both LttP and the "Retconned" previous chapter. That doesn't really make ANY sense, because we have his uncle dying twice and Link not knowing about the whole thing.

Wait, where did I write that? That's not right...