They've released the forbidden Concept Art!
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/06/zelda060509.jpg)
Discuss! ;D
That looks cool. So is this going to be a sequel to Twilight Princess? I wonder who that Zora kid is.
Quote from: Darth Wyndisis on June 05, 2009, 01:49:01 PM
That looks cool. So is this going to be a sequel to Twilight Princess? I wonder who that Zora kid is.
That's not a Zora Kid...
Look Closer
Chick ain't got no eyeballs.
But other than that, what are we supposed to be looking at?
Let me help you.
(http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/9/9c/Master_sword.png)
Do you get it yet?
"Whoa." - Neo, The Matrix
That's pretty neat. I wonder how that works?
Oh, I thought they were giving the Zora another new look or something. I don't know what it is then. Forgive me, I'm kind of dense.
I wouldn't have noticed if it weren't for ZU:
Quote from: Zelda UniverseJust as we've heard, Link is without his sword in this poster, and in front of him (or behind, we guess) is an all-white girl that doesn't look a far cry away from the Queen of Fairies of The Wind Waker. However, the markings on the girl may indicate that she is the spirit of the Master Sword itself; her entire form follows the Master Sword uncannily well, down the gem and design of the hilt.
Ah, I noticed he didn't have a sword, but not that the thing behind him looked like the sword.
So...
(http://s465.photobucket.com/albums/rr12/HH92/t.png)
EDIT:
LOL
(http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs48/f/2009/156/5/1/Lol_alternative_masterswordtan_by_Marina_Stalker.png)
Man, I posted about this on the front page last night and no one cared. ::) Then you guys wonder why I drop off the face of the earth for months at a time.
Quote from: kamakaziplumber on June 05, 2009, 03:22:39 PM
Man, I posted about this on the front page last night and no one cared. ::) Then you guys wonder why I drop off the face of the earth for months at a time.
I wasn't on the computer last night... ::)
Sorry KP ;)
STILL! People should start reading the front page again. :(
Which by the way has a new news post on it already, thank you very much and you're welcome.
The art is insanely awesome, of course. Glad to see the character artist (don't remember his name... T.T ) is back to doing his favorite style. The theory is also not cliche and makes for an intersting plot! Here's hoping her heritage isn't as predictable is Midna's was...
Still, this does make me wonder what that one bloggist said about Link "looking older than ever before." *confused*
He doesn't look older than he did in Twilight Princess.
In fact, he looks almost exactly like he does on the TP cover art.
If she becomes the Master Sword, this would put this in the front of the timeline, wouldn't it...?
That would depend on how it's carried out. If she's used to create the Master Sword, then probably. If she appears to Link from the Master Sword itself, completely unknown as to why, then likely not.
Quote from: HackerHero92 on June 05, 2009, 01:05:29 PM
They've released the forbidden Concept Art!
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/06/zelda060509.jpg)
Discuss! ;D
Wait how come I never heard about this sooner?!
I wouldn't place this at the front of the timeline even if she turned into the Master sword. Link has a hat. MC Link didn't. There is nothing saying the 4Sword didn't come before the Master Sword.
Ganon isn't mentioned once in MC if i remember correctly.
So this might be the Link (Pun=bad) between MC and OoT
It would definitely be before any games with the master sword, most likely. What I wonder is why she would stay in sword form for such a long time afterwards.
Has anyone noticed that besides the Master Sword she looks sorta like Vaati? ::)
Probably has no connection whatsoever but I just thought I'd point it out. :P
I love the OA. What I do wonder about is how this will fit with the new gameplay.
We know that the Master Sword looks slightly different in ALttP than it does in OoT, WW, and TP. I suppose it is possible that the Master Sword was destroyed at some point, releasing its "spirit," which would then have to re-inhabit a newly created Master Sword, among other things.
All I want is more art, screenshots, and tailers XP
EDIT: Wait if this is teh sequel to TP, then, maybe, if Link tries to fix the Mirror in TP maybe he fixes it and it leads him to a different world way back in time or maybe he's sucked into a different realm or somehting XD
EDIT#2: But Shigeru did say it was set in a different era...
Quote from: TP Zelda on June 08, 2009, 12:20:28 AM
Wait how come I never heard about this sooner?!
You didn't go on the internet for a day? ;)
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on June 08, 2009, 02:30:11 PM
I wouldn't place this at the front of the timeline .... Link has a hat. MC Link didn't.
Why does everyone think that the absence of a hat is concrete proof that TMC takes place before OoT? My dad wears bandanas when he's out working in the yard; however, I don't. By this logic, I should be wearing a bandana when I'm doing yardwork because my dad does.
Well, in the legends, Link doesn't wear a hat either. It's not just the TMC link, it's the ancient hero...
castor wilds could have dried up and turned into the gerudo desert, the minish forest is magical- like the kokiri, a magical race who preceded the oocoo in living in the heavens?
It's all just speculation but I think that TMC came first. The Light Force could have evolved into the triforce after the events in TMC because having all that power together was disastrous and now it is balanced.
Also, I never would have thought the master sword to be pigeon-toed.
Quote from: HackerHero92 on June 09, 2009, 02:13:37 AM
Quote from: TP Zelda on June 08, 2009, 12:20:28 AM
Wait how come I never heard about this sooner?!
You didn't go on the internet for a day? ;)
Well someone could have called me. :'(
But oh wellz.
I need more.
Quote from: Darth Wyndisis on June 08, 2009, 06:26:43 PM
We know that the Master Sword looks slightly different in ALttP than it does in OoT, WW, and TP. I suppose it is possible that the Master Sword was destroyed at some point, releasing its "spirit," which would then have to re-inhabit a newly created Master Sword, among other things.
Very, very likely. So perhaps she is just the Evil's Bane part...but then this draws questions as to how the sword is 'restored' in WW...
Quote from: Shika on June 10, 2009, 03:29:29 PM
Quote from: Darth Wyndisis on June 08, 2009, 06:26:43 PM
We know that the Master Sword looks slightly different in ALttP than it does in OoT, WW, and TP. I suppose it is possible that the Master Sword was destroyed at some point, releasing its "spirit," which would then have to re-inhabit a newly created Master Sword, among other things.
Very, very likely. So perhaps she is just the Evil's Bane part...but then this draws questions as to how the sword is 'restored' in WW...
It might depend on what timeline this game is on.
Regardless of Timeline, the fact is that the spirit's power can evidently be lost from the blade and regained in increments through the sages.
Maybe, more generically, she's just a spirit that has been sealed inside the Master Sword without necessarily being the spirit of the sword itself? Wasn't Vaati sealed inside the Four Sword? If so, think of it like that.
Then why would she look like the sword?
I'm just going on a sugar rush, but the Master Sword has the power to repel evil, right? Ans it's the Goddesses who grant this power to repel evil, right?
What if that girl [drum roll] is...
a Goddess?
But not just any goddess, what if she is that missing part of Triforce, because, come on! what kind of artifact would be able to subdue a being empowered by a piece of the triforce if that artifact in question wasn't itself empowered with something as divine?
I believe that this girl (and the Master Sword) will be part of the higher Hyrulean pantheon.
But that's just the sugar rush speaking.
Quote from: Rorschach Mikaudes on June 11, 2009, 11:45:45 AM
But that's just the sugar rush speaking.
Good, 'cause them you'd be GANNON-BANNED!!!
You guys...
You make me laugh, I really don't care what this "GIRL" is, it's obviously a spirit of the master sword, and the quality of these new games it'll be something really simple.
Don't go getting your hopes up because you'll be sad later, just saying.
I doubt it'll be a goddess, let alone really important. But the power of the 7 sages is one of the only few possible things it can be without being insane speculation.
Also note the Master sword was created to defeat Ganon/dorf because he was so powerful due to the Triforce. That's going to say only one with the triforce can wield it, think of it as... A stat boost stack.
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on June 11, 2009, 04:30:59 PM
I doubt it'll be a goddess, let alone really important.
yeah they don't put important people on the cover or anything
I'm talking about important like a goddess/something like that.
This is why I stay away from new game conspiracy threads.
Cause people know they're going to be wrong/semi-wrong yet still choose to talk about it... :-*
speculation is fun. you don't have to be right to speculate.
If we only cared about what was right then there would be no theories or timelines. /:
Quote from: Capt. Fiskers on June 11, 2009, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on June 11, 2009, 04:30:59 PM
I doubt it'll be a goddess, let alone really important.
yeah they don't put important people on the cover or anything
Or in opening FMVs.
Damn it, Square Enix, why put Aria Benett in the opening FMV if she just dies in the first five minutes you know her!
Anywho...
Quote from: Rorschach Mikaudes on June 11, 2009, 11:45:45 AM
But not just any goddess, what if she is that missing part of Triforce, because, come on! what kind of artifact would be able to subdue a being empowered by a piece of the triforce if that artifact in question wasn't itself empowered with something as divine?
Um, Link had a piece of the Triforce himself. Maybe that had something to do with it?
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on June 11, 2009, 04:30:59 PM
Also note the Master sword was created to defeat Ganon/dorf because he was so powerful due to the Triforce. That's going to say only one with the triforce can wield it, think of it as... A stat boost stack.
I don't think the Master Sword was created to specifically defeat Ganon/dorf, but rather any evil person in general.
Quote from: Capt. Fiskers on June 11, 2009, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on June 11, 2009, 04:30:59 PM
I doubt it'll be a goddess, let alone really important.
yeah they don't put important people on the cover or anything
*Ahem*
So Link isn't an important person?
But think about it:
She does look a lot like the Queen of Fairies. Their hair is almost the same, and the chrome-ish type appearance is a lot alike, too.
The Queen of Fairies is the most powerful, and if that is her on the front of the new Zelda game, then maybe that's her true form and she holds the power to the Master Sword in her or something? >.>
Idk, all I know is that the girl on the cover looks a lot like the Queen of Fairies with the Master Sword inside of her.
Ah, but then again...the Master Sword doesn't have a blue stone...
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/Gaara-loves-cookies/omg-2.jpg)
It has a yellow stone though, one that is just like the blue stone she has.
... Maybe the stone is blue because she is sad. :-(
Quote from: Darth Wyndisis on June 12, 2009, 04:21:22 PM
... Maybe the stone is blue because she is sad. :-(
god i love you.
Quote from: Darth Wyndisis on June 12, 2009, 04:21:22 PM
It has a yellow stone though, one that is just like the blue stone she has.
... Maybe the stone is blue because she is sad. :-(
True. But if she did have the Master Sword inside of her it would be yellow, wouldn't it?
LMAO that's brilliant.
Didn't the Queen of Fairies have four arms like the other Great Fairies? It has been a while since I've played The Wind Waker, after all.
no, she was the same size and shape as a kid, she just had the colouration of a great faerie.
Wow. Now that you've put it that way, it makes it seem a little obvious... >.>
No, she has a basic humanoid figure, she does hold a puppet of a Great Fairy, though.
Quote from: MagmarFire on June 13, 2009, 10:15:25 AM
Wow. Now that you've put it that way, it makes it seem a little obvious... >.>
Obvious of what?
The identity of that girl. Hmm...this could mean that Great Fairies could be of actual relevance to the plot this time around.
Ahh, I see. =p I hope so. ^^;;
The Queen of Fairies could possibly be the keeper of the Master Sword in this game? Because she does look quite a lot like both, but that doesn't explain why she has a blue stone instead of a yellow one if she is the keeper of the Master Sword..
Quote from: Capt. Fiskers on June 12, 2009, 05:07:36 PM
Quote from: Darth Wyndisis on June 12, 2009, 04:21:22 PM
... Maybe the stone is blue because she is sad. :-(
god i love you.
I love you too. XD
Quote from: TP Zelda on June 13, 2009, 06:29:17 PM
Ahh, I see. =p I hope so. ^^;;
The Queen of Fairies could possibly be the keeper of the Master Sword in this game? Because she does look quite a lot like both, but that doesn't explain why she has a blue stone instead of a yellow one if she is the keeper of the Master Sword..
On a more serious note though, maybe the blue stone has to do with her, the Master Sword, or both of them losing power.
Edit: The Master Sword didn't have a yellow gem in WW until power was restored.
(http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/114327-the-memory-card-47-a-castle-stuck-in-time/Wind%20Waker%20-%20Holding%20the%20Master%20Sword-468x.jpg)
Quote from: Darth Wyndisis on June 13, 2009, 07:19:07 PMQuote from: TP Zelda on June 13, 2009, 06:29:17 PM
Ahh, I see. =p I hope so. ^^;;
The Queen of Fairies could possibly be the keeper of the Master Sword in this game? Because she does look quite a lot like both, but that doesn't explain why she has a blue stone instead of a yellow one if she is the keeper of the Master Sword..
On a more serious note though, maybe the blue stone has to do with her, the Master Sword, or both of them losing power.
Edit: The Master Sword didn't have a yellow gem in WW until power was restored.
(http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/114327-the-memory-card-47-a-castle-stuck-in-time/Wind%20Waker%20-%20Holding%20the%20Master%20Sword-468x.jpg)
Ah, I see.
But also see, the Queen of Fairies is the most powerful fairy in the fairy world. If she does hold the Master Sword, Ganondorf could have tried to get the Master Sword from her but she, while trying to protect the Master Sword, used all her power to lock Ganon away. Then, Link comes along and Ganon comes back and when he gets the Master Sword he has to restore power to it and then she gives some of her power to Link to help seal Ganon away.
...Idk lol :P
Maybe the Sword will have some more magic powers this time?
And maybe Link can finally "shoot his sword with power" after what seems like years!? That would pwn. It would probably be OP, but it would still pwn.
...And OP means what now?
I would guess "over powered."
Ah, I see.
It would be awesome. ;)
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. :3
If the stone was blue until power was restored...that would definitely be a clue.
Dude, thinking about the restoring power thing- what if she turned into sword form when powered up? It makes me think of LA, where you have to make the choice of everyone or just the island...
Quote from: Capt. Fiskers on June 16, 2009, 03:13:00 PM
Dude, thinking about the restoring power thing- what if she turned into sword form when powered up? It makes me think of LA, where you have to make the choice of everyone or just the island...
Wait, run that last part by me again?
In LA, you choose:
Stay on the island with Marin and never go save the world from Ganon/etc.
Leave the island and kill all the people you just met
and in this one you choose:
kill your friend and get master sword
keep your friend and kill everyone else
Either way, it's:
Finish the game.
Don't finish the game.
Either way,
I want it.
Quote from: Capt. Fiskers on June 18, 2009, 04:53:02 PM
In LA, you choose:
Stay on the island with Marin and never go save the world from Ganon/etc.
Leave the island and kill all the people you just met
and in this one you choose:
kill your friend and get master sword
keep your friend and kill everyone else
Ah, gotcha. Well since this is a youth game, it's probably going to be more like Link in TP-- being able to switch between human and feral depending on the situation.
I'm not sure if they'll use that mechanic so soon after TP. This is supposed to be in a different era, after all; being up in the air is the most likely probability rating that would fit it.