Manga Series You Hate

[Hi no Seijin]

Aw, that made me sad. :(

I happen to find Excel Saga hilarious, but to each their own, right?

[Fae]

To each their own ^_^

[MasterKeyX]

I had to weigh in here. I just had to.

My favorite Manga series are: Loveless, Ouran High School Host Club, Rurouni Kenshin, Kingdom Hearts (especially CoM), and Deathnote

The only manga I dislike is Naruto. I just didnt find it to be very interesting...

I beagn to read FullMoon and that too was pretty good... not to mention FMA was also allright. Overall though my favorite is Ouran.

And I am tickled pink to see that there are other Loveless lovers out there!! ;D ;D

[Mysterious F.]

I'm not telling you that it's a good series and you should read it, LadyNintendo, or anything similar to that, but that you haven't watched the series to know just how the characters develop. Gaara HAS developed, not just the "ZOMG! He has only switched a tiny aspect of his life!!!" you and JQ give him credit for. And for both of you to know, I could just as easily say a series you like that I haven't watched/read has no development besides the equivelent of "switching teams".

I suggest you read Wikipedia's articles for Gaara and Neji Hyuga to get very good examles on Naruto development (and yes, you have to read it). Otherwise, you'll have little idea of anything you're talking about,

[darkphantomime]

You think she hasn't already read the so called articles over there?

[LadyNintendo]

The truth lies in the middle. I HAVE read the article about Gaara, but not the other guy's (considering the number of Naruto related articles, I was bound to miss one or two). But since it is some time ago, I am rereading Gaara's now and reading Neji's. Do not think I am going to stubbornly hold on to my previous opinion in order to not look foolish or something if I'm still not impressed. IF I like what I read I will say so. IF I don't, I will say so too.

Oh....my Sendell  :-\

If you'd like to say Wikipedia's articles aren't all that great, I'm going to give you that chance. Otherwise, this certainly hasn't made anything better. I like some of the ideas of the setting of Naruto, which influence the characters, but certainly I can't call this anymore than meager "development" (yes, including the ""). This isn't real development, this is pink fluffy edited Sailor Moon, DBZ and any random anime that these days makes it to western television for no other reason than that the tv top thinks anything else would be too difficult-development. What I mean is, good and bad are obvious, rather than that there's a fine line. It throws stereotypical not-indivuals (also known as "the rest of the village") in the mix, that serve no other purpose than to make the life of the main characters all the more tragic. It uses mainly/only violence to make characters aware of their flaws, which is rather sad if that's the only thing someone is willing to listen too. To make things worse, it has an overrepresented main character with an overused personality. Not to mention the show, like many others of its kind, seriously needs to watch Argaï or read ElfQuest to learn how not too overrepresent one of the two genders.

While I do believe the show is (/can be, matter of taste) entertaining, it just doesn't appear to have any development deeper than a random belly button. Note me saying "appear", as I'm willing to believe that Wikipedia could do a much better job at decribing Naruto's characters. If I'm wrong, please tell me by anything more than just "You're wrong" or that nice little threat that is the third sentence of your latest post. Speaking of which, before you go on a "right-back-at-you" tour, let me assure you that I do not consider everything I like to be filled with (real) development. They have other qualities, that Naruto might have (I can't tell from WIkipedia's info).  

[Mysterious F.]

I'll just tell you now, the main reason Naruto's articles aren't as good as they can be is because we're preoccupied with three other things that come beforehand:

1) Some complete and total <censor> <censor> <censor> (a day later) <censor> has basically been going around Wikipedia going "No Images! My word is Law!!!!!" and referencing not actual policies, but a mass of information he collected. It's very annoying.
2) We're attempting to get more references on the articles.
3) Need out-of-universe information and tone.

Not to mention the whole "Crusade Against Naruto/Anime And Manga As A Whole" many members are doing throughout Wikipedia. I myself would attempt helping them (most of the references on the Naruto Uzumaki article were put there by me), but I'm currently more preoccupied with the Bleach articles right now (they give an article to everyone that can't be described in one paragraph).

I do suggest, however, you read Akatsuki (Naruto), a very well-written article with 150 references (FAR more than that of the average Wikipedian article). Even if you don't like the series, the characters listed there are awesome.