Could vaati be the main villain in PH?

[iastreb]

wait, if MC come smany years after PH, so vaatcan come back again!

[Hi no Seijin]

If we establish the fact the TMC comes after PH, then Vaati can't be in PH because TMC was Vaati's origin.  Not unless Vaati can travel back in time.

[iastreb]

aha... what about a evil spirit, named Vaati survives every defite and comes back again... what about Vaati in FSA?

[Hi no Seijin]

What about FSA?  FS and FSA can only happen after TMC.  And if your saying that Vaati was killed and his spirit entered into the Minish Vaati many years later, then you may have a case to argue.

[iastreb]

i guess that what i meant

[Evilslayer]

Problem is, TMC ALSO tells of the origins of the Four Swords. ;)

If we establish the fact the TMC comes after PH, then Vaati can't be in PH because TMC was Vaati's origin.  Not unless Vaati can travel back in time.

That's not a fact. Like I mentioned earlier, the only hint from the creators places TMC and the FS-series before OoT. I personally don't believe it's before, but it IS a possibility.

It MIGHT be a mistranslation. Oldest tale may mean latest tale.

[Hi no Seijin]

I thought the Four Sword wasn't in PH.

And I doubt that TMC and the FS series can take place before OoT.  For one, the Light Force in TMC was probably the Triforce, and the first time the Triforce was broken up was in OoT.  Also, OoT is widely believed to be the origin of Ganon and Ganondorf.  I haven't played FSA, but I know Ganon's in it.  If OoT is his origin, then FSA can't take place before OoT.  And with FS being in between TMC and FSA, that game can only happen after OoT.  Perhaps you meant TWW when you said OoT.  And you are right; it might be a mistranslation.

[Mysterious F.]

If that's true, then the Four Sword is under an ocean by now. Yet the Four Sword is mentioned in LTTP, which most likely came after OOT. Wind Waker is after OOT, and mentions nothing about LTTP stuff or the Four Sword. Conclusion, Four Swords and Minish Cap and LTTP, after Wind Waker.

[Hi no Seijin]

You are half right, Whocares.  The Four Sword is mentioned in ALttP, but for the GBA version.  And I doubt this can be considered canon; I, at least, would rather go with the original version of a game when figuring out continuity theories.  And I agree with you that TMC, FS, and ALttP comes after TWW.

[Mysterious F.]

Than you agree with my entire argument. PH comes right after TWW by a few months. The others would come after TWW at least 50 years. So there.

[Hi no Seijin]

Okay, now I'm lost. ???

You win by default.

[Mysterious F.]

Who's got the cloaking device? ;)

Heh? What do you mean? But still, this is before MC, so Vaati shouldn't exist.

[The Postman]

Vaati is now my slave

[MagmarFire]

Who's got the cloaking device? ;)

Oh, boy! Sorry about that! Either some people deleted their posts or I put it in the wrong thread.

No worries. Taken care of!

[Evilslayer]

And I doubt that TMC and the FS series can take place before OoT.  For one, the Light Force in TMC was probably the Triforce, and the first time the Triforce was broken up was in OoT.  Also, OoT is widely believed to be the origin of Ganon and Ganondorf.  I haven't played FSA, but I know Ganon's in it.  If OoT is his origin, then FSA can't take place before OoT.  And with FS being in between TMC and FSA, that game can only happen after OoT.  Perhaps you meant TWW when you said OoT.  And you are right; it might be a mistranslation.

FSA is also about Ganon's origins. In one of the games he's a reincarnation. I believe FSA is the one, but that doesn't mean he's not a reincarnation in OoT.

However, there are also hints in OoT that not only has the Master Sword been used before, but the Sages has been gathered before. And I don't think the Ancient Sages just decided one day that they wanted to build a Temple that would protect the gate to the Golden Land. Something must have happened. Speaking of which, OoT doesn't say that the Goddesses left the Triforce in the Golden Land. It's only something we assume.

And the Light Force isn't the Triforce, according to Aonuma.