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Democrat or Republican?

Started by Mysterious F., May 17, 2007, 02:08:14 PM

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Which one are you?

Democrat
7 (35%)
Republican
5 (25%)
I don't care about the government
5 (25%)
I am part of no party
3 (15%)
Other party
0 (0%)
0 (0%)
0 (0%)
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Rincewind

QuoteThere obviously has to be some measures taken to keep people from just walking in at will.

Don't worry about that, people will be walking out soon enough.

Gamefreak


MasterKeyX

#32
Quote from: Rincewind on May 19, 2007, 03:20:24 PM
Don't worry about that, people will be walking out soon enough.

Yup, Rincewind, keep up your arrogant and idiotic attitude. It's people like you that make this coutry the most hated in the world. People walk out of the country becuase of people like you. So keep it up.

Becuase of the rules here and all, I cannot even convey how annoyed I am by this comment...


RIP my LeafGreen team: 2005-2010

Mysterious F.

Please elaborate, Rincewind.

MasterKeyX

I may be pissed, but, by all means, do elaborate as to why you'd say such.


RIP my LeafGreen team: 2005-2010

Fishalicious

Ah... illegal immigrants. I'm totally okay with them, I live in South Texas, after all. I mean, as long as they speak English and are genuinely citizen-like, they should be a citizen by my book. (even if they are illegal immigrants, I think they deserve the right to vote, I mean, they need to be able to pick who's in charge of everyone. Maybe some other, more basic rights as well, but not all rights; they are illegal, after all.)

And as for abortion... Ugh, I'm so pissed at that topic. XD (sorry if that word offends anyone; I'm not too fond of the word myself, I just had to convey my feelings) I mean, sometimes a woman doesn't have a choice as to whether or not they get pregnant or not. What if, say, a teenager got raped, and pregnant? I certainly would not want to have a baby in high school; it would look terrible on a resume, and it wouldn't even be my fault. Childbirth is a very painful thing from what I've heard, as well, so why not let them abort?

I don't know; a lot of the people against it are guys and probably wouldn't understand as well as a woman. I mean no offense to the guys on the forums; it's just that... it's easier to side when you're the same gender as the one you're discussing. XD

collaboration

There are...a lot :B of illegal Mexican immigrants residing in a particular sector of my town. Many illegal immigrants are fine people, however, as is applicable to everybody, I'm not cool with the brigands. An illegal Mexican beat to death an elderly Mexican-American woman in her convenience store and robbed it of the total 60 dollars in her till. That happened last summer, and it was unfortunate.
However, I've been a client of and an employee to several horse barns where Mexican immigrants have been employed as well. Some of the barns did employ illegal immigrants, and some of the owners and trainers were kind enough to find them  English tutors and to help them "legalize" themselves. Some were not, but I'd say the vast majority of those men I've met were good and hard-working people.
I'm not sure where this is going. Or supposed to be going. :3

I wildly dislike this idea that someone else can choose for me whether I'm allowed an abortion or not. I'm pro-choice, definitely, and I'd be horrified to not have that option. I've had a few friends who were raped and became pregnant. Two of them got abortions, thankfully, and one didn't. She made a real crappy mommy. I feel bad for the kid, because she abandons it with her boyfriend's mom while she disappears for a few weeks on cocaine binges. She didn't believe in having an abortion. So she saved the child's body but kills its spirit? Whatever. Her choice.
Because, to be honest? Abortions would happen and have always happened, whether they are/were legal or illegal. When they're legal, they're in clinics with qualified doctors. When they're illegal, more often than not, they're by sick monsters in the back of somebody's butchery with a hook or a dirty knife or a skewer. Yeah. Real nice. So abortions are murder to some people? Well, making abortion illegal means making abortion clinics a black market affair, and that gives twisted individuals their chance to grant a grisly and tortuous death to the mother.
And another thing! (I can go on for a while on this) Pro-choice can be a conservative value also. Because isn't it so that the human body is a possession of itself? I own my own body, nobody else does. So if somebody rapes me, my property is being infringed upon and violated by someone else and their resulting baby. So I can "evict" that being from my body. Some would argue that it's an issue of that being's right to life, but it's my constitutional right to protect my own property.

LadyNintendo

Quote from: MasterKey on May 19, 2007, 03:33:27 PM
Quote from: Rincewind on May 19, 2007, 03:20:24 PM
Don't worry about that, people will be walking out soon enough.

Yup, Rincewind, keep up your arrogant and idiotic attitude. It's people like you that make this coutry the most hated in the world. People walk out of the country becuase of people like you. So keep it up.

Becuase of the rules here and all, I cannot even convey how annoyed I am by this comment...

Yeah, there certainly is no other reason to hate America than that kind of comment. Seriously, give me 20 seconds and I can come up with about 15 reasons why people (could) hate America.

Anyway, I'm with the party that has the (in my opinion) best views. And that tend to be lefties.

Vaati

I agree. I mean, I understand that the immigrants want to get in the U.S. so badly, but do they have to do it illegally? If crossing the border illegally was legal, everyone would be doing it. But the main concern is that they're taking our jobs, kind of overcrowding some cities, and that they're having kids just so they can say "My kid was born in America, so I can stay here with them!" I think I heard a while ago that they weren't going to tolerate that. They have to either go back to their own country and take their kids with them, or go back to their own country and leave their kids with someone they know well enough that is a legal citizen to take care of the child. As for around where I live, it's a rule that illegal immigrants can't have a job in our town.

Any way, back ontopic. I'm Democrat.

Rev Rabies

actually vaati... that whole post was on topic



Baka Nezumi

I think they should have a tougher system of keeping the illegal immigrants out. However, I don't like the idea of kicking out illegal immigrants who have worked hard to come as far as they do.

And I thank you, Collaboration. You said my veiws better than I could.

Fishalicious

Quote from: Vaati on May 20, 2007, 04:51:18 AM
But the main concern is that they're taking our jobs

Uh... well, I don't know about that. I kind of agree, but well, I think that if they do the job well, then that's not really taking a job; it's just that they're okay with minimum wage or lower. I mean, a lot of immigrants come in to avoid poverty, and they're probably glad to just have SOME money. The people who had the job beforehand would be used to the sheltered life, and wouldn't accept lower; as such, they are booted out because the boss doesn't want to have to pay more and have less employees to do the work.

But... myeh. Overcrowding can be because of Illegal Immigrants and being against abortion, wow. 8D; But... I don't know.

I think that the US should try and help to fix up Mexico (after we get done trying to "fix up" the middle east) so that the illegal immigrants wouldn't mind being in Mexico so much, and as such, would stay in Mexico. Of course, I don't think it'd be too cool if they rebelled against it and tried to bomb us or something. D:

I dunno, people should be able to have a job and make their own choices. Money and country/state borders seem to be making the lower half of the US and Mexico a battlefield. Yet, they also provide a type of order... Ugh, it's confusing DX If money didn't exist, then lots of things wouldn't be, but other stuff would...

saria..

#42
I  generally could care less about politics.
But I  am   a bit  prochoice in these situations:

Rape
Last resort to save mother
If the child has an  extremely painful incurable disease
The condom broke (esp if underage)

Other than that I generally don't give a hoot about what's happening in politics.

Pale Dim

Hmph. I'm going with Democrat. Need I say why?


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Gamefreak

#44
That would help.  Nothing annoys me more in politics than ignorant fools(Democrat or Republican) who don't know what they stand for when they say they stand for something.