Colony Collapse Disorder

[Keaton]

Joseph Smith is the true prophet of the Lord.

Proven fact.

[Commodore Axilon]

Also, about the honeybee thing, it's only the domestic honeybees that are going missing, right? Or is it honeybees in general?

[MagmarFire]

Sounds to me like it's honeybees in general. Otherwise, people probably wouldn't be making a big deal about it.

[Zelda Veteran]

You can find actual documentaries about this on youtube.
Still, if vegetation starts to die, a few animals will die because what they normally eat is missing. If those few animals die, the animals that ate those animals will die, and the animals that ate those animals will die off, and what does our diet consist of? Veggies and animals. We'd have to resort to the chopsticks method, and soon the world would be fighting over food. That could very likely break out in a war, etc.

The trickle effect is a big one people. When something happens that seems small, big things start happening. And sorry Dani, didn't mean to scare you. My sister (who is your age) was also getting scared. Meh. I guess I'll just have to keep this out of the ears of the littl'uns.

[Rev Rabies]

you know who eats grain? cows, you know what animal eats cows? humans, and we don't need cows to live, grains and vegetables/fruit that use flowers, and even if they die, they can be replaced, we have vitamins, and edible plants, and meat

[Commodore Axilon]

Honeybees aren't the only kind of bee that pollinate things, bees aren't the only kind of insect that pollinate things, insects aren't the only kind of animal that pollinate things, some plants don't even need animals to facilitate pollination.

Is there a source other than Einstein that says it would really be that bad without honeybees? You have to remember that, as smart as the man was, he wasn't a biologist.

[darkphantomime]

This STILL hasn't gotten through to you, has it?

Even fruits and vegetables are at risk of this epidemic, don't you see? Our entire food supply is very closely linked to honeybees and pollenization. Also WE eat grains, they're a big part of our food supply (virtually all bread/pasta products)

[Commodore Axilon]

Who's arguing that?

I'm just questioning whether all of humanity would be dead within four years if honeybees disappeared. We could easily adapt without honeybees. It would be tough, yes, but I don't think it would be a civilization shattering event.

Edit: And I see that you probably weren't replying to me. My point still stands, though.

[Rev Rabies]

This STILL hasn't gotten through to you, has it?

Even fruits and vegetables are at risk of this epidemic, don't you see? Our entire food supply is very closely linked to honeybees and pollenization. Also WE eat grains, they're a big part of our food supply (virtually all bread/pasta products)

and i've said, that's true because most fruits/vegetables utilize flowers!!!!!

and we don't need bread to live, we just need water and anything edible

[Zelda Veteran]

*sigh*
Yes, other things pollinate. But do you honestly think that people would be panicking about this if what you're saying is true? Do you really believe that the scientists around the world haven't thought of what you just said? Maybe I should put it this way.

1/3 of the worlds food - 3/3 = 2/3.
When there isn't enough food to feed everyone, you'd think "Oh, well adapt duh!1". People are arrogant pigs who won't adapt. Sure, we can try. But by NO means will it be easy. Countries will want to keep all food they grow in THEIR country. A hypocritical country fulla fat people like the U.S.A. will try to get the world to share their food. China is having trouble feeding everyone as it is. They'll start to die. Nations will unite. War will break out for food, people will die.

TRICKLE EFFECT.

I can only hope that somehow, people are smarter and better natured within the next 4 years.

[Commodore Axilon]

You still haven't given any kind of reputable source. Do you want me to just take your word for it?

[MagmarFire]

China is having trouble feeding everyone as it is. They'll start to die.

DEAD WRONG.

Like I said before, if food goes down in a population, don't automatically assume it goes down because people die of starvation. And again, it's this mindset that's causing our population to increase. We have only a certain amount of food. More people come into the world. We go, "OMZVG, liek, wii dont have enuff food 4 people!11 wii need moar!!!1" That causes our population to rise AGAIN. Rinse and repeat.

Look, if we just keep the same amount of food we have now, masses of people aren't going to start dying of starvation. Our population's only going to cap at a certain point. It's not because people are dying of starvation; it's because people don't have as much energy to reproduce.

Like, let's say we already have a cap on food. We decide to reduce it by just a little bit--like, say, only the equivalent of two beans from a diet. Doesn't sound like much, right? Well, it's not. Sure enough, though, after the course of a few years, our population's still going to go down. Every time.

[Rev Rabies]

we are built to adapt zv, that's what the origin of species says

[Gamefreak]

Woah, you're all over the radar Dr.  First it's quoting the Bible and now it's quoting The Origin of Species.

[Rev Rabies]

Th origin of species i believe to be true to a point, the whole survival of the fittest thing, and adaptation, and maybe evolution, it's possible that while adam and eve were in the garden, evolution was taking place, but i still believe god created everything