A little question

[iastreb]

Hey! If that that OoT explains the creation of hyrule really makes it the first?

[Mysterious F.]

Many people assume so. I believe so, too.

[Hi no Seijin]

True, but apparently FSA has some evidence that it came before OoT.  I don't know what evidence, though; I haven't played the game.

[iastreb]

i don't think so.... it only explains it... maybe.... i don't now.... :-X

[Mysterious F.]

It probably doesn't. I'm sure.

[king of red lions]

Of course OoT came first! it leads into majoras mask. We know that WW came after MM ( there is a ton of evidence) Then they sail off at the end of WW. They then find the new hyrule. The new master sword isn't as good as teh old one ( remember in all of the GBA GB NES games, you have to kill ganon with something other than the master sword) that makes OoT first! :P

~ next time ask an expert!

[Evilslayer]

There are NO evidence that OoT is the first. For more info, read my newest timeline theory in the other topic. :-* And the Master Sword is ALWAYS the same. The reason Link needs the Silver Arrows is because it's the ONLY weapon that can kill Ganon. The Master Sword cannot kill him. Mention one game where it's been used to actually kill kim.

OoT isn't the only game that explains the creation of Hyrule. ALttP also explain the creation of Hyrule. So, OoT isn't the first for that reason.

[Darth Wyndisis]

Just because OoT explained the creation of Hyrule doesn't make it the first.  The time of OoT could be thousands of years after the creation, so there is always room for stories before it.

[Mysterious F.]

There are NO evidence that OoT is the first. For more info, read my newest timeline theory in the other topic. :-* And the Master Sword is ALWAYS the same. The reason Link needs the Silver Arrows is because it's the ONLY weapon that can kill Ganon. The Master Sword cannot kill him. Mention one game where it's been used to actually kill kim.

OoT isn't the only game that explains the creation of Hyrule. ALttP also explain the creation of Hyrule. So, OoT isn't the first for that reason.

Actually, in OOT you use the sword to kill Ganon, while the light arrows only stun him long enough to use the sword, and light arrows can't kill him.

[Evilslayer]

The Master Sword cannot kill him. It doesn't do that in OoT. It only seals him away. And I said SILVER ARROWS. They're NOT the same as Light Arrows.

For starters, the Light Arrows are merely a spell that Link cast on his arrows, while the Silver Arrows are actual arrows that replace the arrows.

[Nabooru]

I think oot comes first to, though it makes it seem lke all of them are first. :-X

[Hi no Seijin]

OoT isn't the only game that explains the creation of Hyrule. ALttP also explain the creation of Hyrule. So, OoT isn't the first for that reason.

ALttP can't be before OoT because Ganondorf is only mentioned in ALttP, and when he is mentioned it is told that Ganondorf became Ganon, or something like that; I can't remember.  We see Ganondorf's transformation into Ganon in OoT (and FSA, I believe).  It follows through that ALttP must come after OoT.  This makes it plausible that OoT is the first game in Hyrule's history.  Also, I believe I read somewhere (maybe on this site) that PH might link TWW and ALttP together.  And since it was stated that TWW is after OoT, ALttP would definitely be after OoT.

[Evilslayer]

My point was that because the creation is mentioned in ALttP you can't use that as an evidence that OoT is the first. And because OoT isn't necassarily the Imprisonning War the Ganondorf mentioned in ALttP may well be the one in FSA. Therefore, you can't say for sure that ALttP is after OoT. I believe so, but it's not a 100% fact. As for PH, that rumour is slightly unlikely. How can it, with the given story, possibly link to ALttP and erase every doubt that it's after OoT?

As for the first game in the timeline, the three strongest combatants for that title are OoT, TMC and LoZ. Out of those LoZ has by far the strongest position.

In OoT you only know that there's an evil Gerudo called Ganondorf who wants the Triforce, and have two surrogate mothers (hinting that he's been resurrected through childbirth.

LoZ is a different story. The Japanese version mentions that Ganon invaded Hyrule from a 'world of evil'. Originally I thought that world was the Dark World, but then I realized it may, in fact, be a completely different world, like Termina. Heck, it may even be Termina, liberated when Ganon was slain.

And given the fact that Ganon looks like a Moblin I now believe that Ganon was borne in that world to a Moblin Royal Family. He became corrupted and ruled his empire like a tyrant, and eventually found Hyrule. It may be that his evil rule changed the land into a nightmarish wasteland, and that was why he invaded Hyrule when he saw that beautiful landscape.

I've also realized that the dark realm the King of Red Lions mentions in TWW when you first meet him is not the Dark World, and neither Hyrule during the seven years of darkness (neither makes sense, anyway), but the evil world he comes from.

[Hi no Seijin]

I wish Nintendo would come here and visit this absolute mess I and others are in and decide to help us out.  I simply don't know what to go with anymore.  Simply because I haven't played FSA and the first Zelda game yet, preventing me from seeing any evidence concerning the timeline for myself, I'll just stick with OoT as being first.  Thanks for trying to clarify it up some, though.

[MagmarFire]

Still, didn't Miyamoto officially state that OoT was the first in the timeline? If so, I'm going by that.