Jedi vs Ninja

[Mysterious F.]

You mean Shuriken From All Directions?

[DW]

yes. Picture the fight with Gaara when he used the Uzumaki Chronicles...

[Mysterious F.]

Also, what about Itachi vs. Darth Vader? I say Itachi, Vader has no chance. Itachi is the most powerful living identified character in the series.

[darkphantomime]

Also, what about Itachi vs. Darth Vader? I say Itachi, Vader has no chance. Itachi is the most powerful living identified character in the series.

1. DIdn't you just say Naruto is the most powerful character in the series?
2. No matter how fast a ninja is, they're still susciptable to being choked to death.

And the reason why it would be fair if Obi-wan used the force while Naruto didn't have all that power from the NIne-tailed fox is because the match would be way WAY WAY too lopsided. It wouldn't be a fair or honorable match if Naruto simply attacked him in such a manner, while Obi-wan isn't able to do anything.

On the one hand, if Naruto is allowed to have ALL of his moves, Obi-wan would lose almost instantly, a very lopsided match. On the other hand, if Obi-wan had his power and Naruto had just his agility WITHOUT the ninetailed fox, it would be much more balanced because Obi-wan can't kill Naruto instantly if he has the powers of the force; conversely, if Naruto had all his power, the battle would end in half a second, making it a very dishonorable match indeed.

[DW]

okay, look. It would be a fair match. That's like saying it would be dishonorable to have us fight France in a war unless we used rocks instead of guns. If Naruto is stronger, so be it. That is what this whole thing is about.

[Hi no Seijin]

Well, JQ is going on the assumption that both Naruto and Obi-Wan are going to show honor on the battlefield.  And I may be wrong again, so please correct me if I am, but does anyone in Naruto show honor on the battlefield?  My honor on the battlefield is the last thing I'm going to worry about if I know the enemy isn't going to show any.  If I were to attack all my enemies from the front in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance because it's the honorable thing to do, then I doubt I would be very far in it or even playing it at all, because in FFTA, the enemies (or rivals, in some cases) aren't going to strike you from the front.  They're going to get you from behind.

[DW]

Showing honor in battle doesn't mean limiting your abilities. It means not fighting dirty. It's not dishonorable to put what you got up against what the enemy's got, no matter how much stronger or weaker you are.

[Hi no Seijin]

True.  I'm guessing JQ thinks one hit kills (or KOs in certain games) is fighting dirty.  But I think that if you can KO something in one hit, that just shows how good you are.

[DW]

Okay, take it this way. If you are camping and a bear attacks, and you have a rifle in your hand, are you going to throw the rifle aside and wrestle the bear because the gun gives you an unfair advantage?

[Hi no Seijin]

I'm going to pretend that you're talking to JQ now, because I think I made it clear both Naruto and Obi Wan should use their power to their full extent if they so desire.

I still don't think they would try to kill each other, though.  Not unless some villian tricked them into killing each other.

[DW]

i wasn't talking to you, no, I was talking to anyone who still thinks naruto should be nerfed. and if their partner's lives were at stake in their fight they would kill, yes.

[Gamefreak]

No, I doubt they would intentionally kill each other.  Think of it as a friendly practice fight.

[DW]

How could Obi-Wan have a practice fight with his lightsaber...?

[Hi no Seijin]

Thank you, Gamefreak.

And Shikamaru, he wouldn't have to use his ligtsaber.  I'm sure he could get his hands on a pratice sword.

[MasterKeyX]

You know, they do have practice light sabers ins some of the Star Wars films that dont actually harm you, he'd use one of those.