These are probably the toughest Zelda games ever!

[DW]

you sure you want no help? I was stuck there for a while. and it could be repayment for your birthday gift. :-*

[Mysterious F.]

No, I'll just use the TP walkthrough.

[DW]

you aren't a true Zelda fan if you use walkthroughs >:(

then again, you are an idiot if you don't....at least in my case, I spend twenty minutes figuring out the stupidest things. :-*

[Paul]

In zelda puzzles the first piece is always the most dificult one to find, but when you see that candellight is fire the meal has already been cooked.

[MagmarFire]

you aren't a true Zelda fan if you use walkthroughs >:(

Absolutely untrue. That is JUST like saying that if you ask questions, then you aren't a genius. Even Albert Einstein asked questions! Do we not consider him a genius? Heck, if it weren't for the fact that he asked questions, he probably wouldn't have made his theory on relativity in the universe.

Here's a quote from The Fresh Prince of Bel-Aire (sp?):

There's nothing wrong with getting a little bit of help, Will. People open doors for me. It doesn't make you any less of a man to walk through them.

--Uncle Phil

[larwaa]

I don't use walkthroughs untill I'm REALLY stuck..
anyways those games are pretty tough yes.. I beat LoZ a couple days ago and I'm getting like halfways in AoL now :)
AoL is the hardest though.. but once u get to know the game a little bit... its not that hard anymore :)

[Mysterious F.]

I usually memorize everything after playing the game once or twice, (three times for the hard ones) and I use walkthroughs for Water themed Gamecube dungeons, (I bet you can tell why) but I can figure out all but the toughest things. (I'm an idiot at TP, and gave up on the NES Games)

[violinist]

both loz and aol are impossible!!! >:( >:(

[Mysterious F.]

I beet four of the nine LOZ dungeons, but the toughnest and amount of time it took to complete them made me lose interest. I can't beat AOL's first dungeon.

[violinist]

Impossable! i need a good walkthrough...  ::)

[DW]

what problem's are you having on AoL's first dungeon?

[bgrugby]

Yeah really if you cannot beat AoL's first dungeon then you are either too young or too reliant on walkthroughs.

cue the old man music

Back in my day, we were lucky to get a map of Hyrule for the original Legend of Zelda, not to mention stumbling upon a map for the second quest. For AoL, if we had problems, the only thing we could do was call a friend and if they didn't know we would call the Nintendo Power Hotline and be charged 99 cents a minute for hints. We found our own way around, which made beating the game more satisfactory. Yes, we didn't get the grand show that games give today with endings, all we got was a Game Over, but it was more rewarding knowing you did it on your own. Today, people rely too much on the Internet and Strategy Guides and, if anything, that is what is killing gaming.

End Rant

[DW]

I wholeheartedly agree, I try to never use walkthroughs or cheats, except for after I've beat the game and want to mess around and find cool stuff or get 100%.

[wiizard]

yeah walkthroughs are not a good option unless you have been in the same part for like a year but I prefer to ask a friend how he could solve a puzzle, when I was younger I used some walkthroughs but now I think that the sense of the game is to beat it by myslef.

[DW]

My Grandma uses walkthroughs for EVERYTHING. I mean she literally follows it, doesn't take a step unless it tells her to.