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Creation of the Triforce

Started by newbkyng, July 13, 2006, 08:18:51 PM

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newbkyng

We all know the story of the Triforce's creation of course, how the 3 goddesses created Hyrule in a very Creation-like story (you know, from the bible?) and then the Triforce was created. I don't think that is really what happened. When this story got passed down for thousands of years, something was sure to have gotten changed.

What I think really happened is...

Look at the ending cutscene in TMC. The hat sounds awfully like the Triforce. Now what I think is the Lightforce and the magic hat created a reaction which resulted in the spinny triangles we all love.

The 'goddesses' were in TMC too. They might have added their power to the Triforce too.

Thus the Triforce was created in TMC and it is the first Zelda game.

Nabooru

Thats an intresting outlook, i dont think thats right but were all entitled to our opinion so yeah..

MagmarFire

Personally, I really think that's incorrect. Aonuma stated that the Light Force was not the Triforce.

The Triforce may have had something to do the Minish Cap, but it hasn't been stated, I think.



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Hi no Seijin

The Triforce is seen in TMC, like on the banners in Hyrule Castle.  And that's an interesting thought, but I won't be accepting it as remotely possible anytime soon.  You biggest flaw is the fact that we see the Triforce in TMC, even though it is not relevant to the plot.  Sorry, newbkyng, but, while it is a good idea, you cannot even prove that it's plausible.
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newbkyng

WHAT IF the triforce and the winged triforce were the family crest, and so the triforce took on that shape becuz it was created by one of the Royal Family?
Not so smart now  ;D

Hi no Seijin

First off, that last sentecne wasn't necessary; it's an insult to my intelligence.  Second, the goddesses were not in TMC.  The Oracles from Holodrum and Labrynna are named after the goddesses.  Third, the hat is nothing like the Triforce.  That hat is Ezlo, a Minish master of lore and sorcery.  The Triforce is an inanimate object; Ezlo is a living creature.  And then, we still have the fact that Aonuma stated that the Light Force wasn't the Triforce.  I'm going to take the word of a person who is officially with Nintendo over the word of a fan.
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Nabooru

Wow that was wonderful. We all have opinions so lets calm down a little.

newbkyng

No, the magic red pointy hat that Vaati used to turn 'human', and the same hat Zelda wore to set the world back 2 normal. And I didn't say the LightForce was the Triforce, just that it was created by it. Also, I never said the goddesses were in the game, but they must've been around.

Hi no Seijin

Quote from: newbkyng on July 13, 2006, 08:18:51 PM
The 'goddesses' were in TMC too. They might have added their power to the Triforce too.
No, you did say the goddesses were in TMC.  As for the Light Force and the Mage's Cap creating a reaction, it restored Hyrule Castle and the Mage's Cap disintegrated.  That was all.  Going back to your "A Royal Family member made the Triforce" comment, that is impossible.  Even though the Hylians are the most magical race in the game, not only do we hardly see them use it (we only see Zelda using any magical powers) but they are still human, and humans cannot create something as powerful as the Triforce.  It would take a god or goddess to do it.  And then, it would have to take three goddesses to create it.  The Triforce represents Power, Courage, and Wisdom, and Din, Farore, and Nayru are the Goddesses of Power, Courage, and Wisdom respectively.  The goddesses had to work together to create this relic of balance (which humans are rarely ever balanced between the three virtues mentioned above).  And before you say that the Mage's Cap had unlimited power, think.  Ezlo probably said that because he was arrogant (he certainly shows arrogance in the game).  Also, if the Mage's Cap had unlimited power, Vaati wouldn't have needed the Light Force.  What little Light Force Zelda had left and the limited Mage's Cap most likely wouldn't have had the power to create something so powerful as the Triforce.
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newbkyng

The Mage cap WAS really powerful, it seemed to be an equal to the Triforce. And the goddesses were in it as they were in every game just not seen. They were there, they were the earth, they were the life of all creatures.

Hi no Seijin

Okay, that was philosophical.  Even so, the Mage's Cap is still not as powerful as Ezlo would like to believe.  If Vaati needed the Light Force and the Mage's Cap to become a god, it is not very powerful.  And Zelda barely has any of the Light Force in her at the end of the game.  It probably won't be enough power to make the Mage's Cap into the Triforce.  What you have to say is interesting, but I just don't think it's plausible.  If that's what you want to believe, then fine.  Go with it.  I'm just saying why I don't think your view is the correct one to use and why I won't be using it anytime soon.
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newbkyng

That's so mean, how do you sleep at night? I don't see whats wrong with it, like, it was never stated the Triforce could turn you into a god either. And if it could, that would be because it was fused with the light force. Maybe Vaati took too much

(If you don't inderstand and you are a Naruto fan, in a recent comic it was shown Naruto made more chakra then needed and the excess went to waste. Mbe something like that?)

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DW

Maybe Tingle is the incarnation of the Godesses. Maybe Vaati is really a saint and the world is messed up.these are empty ideas with no proof.
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Harashi

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well the "goddesses" came from Holodrum and Labryna. In the creation of hyrule story it dosen't say the goddesses lived in hyrule for a while as a couple of divas for a few years and left. It also dosen't mention them being kidnapped by evil people.

Don't beleive they're from the oracle games? Check their figurines from Carlov. This also disproves your "this is the first game" theory

Also, the theory that the cap was equal to the triforce is dead too because when the triforce is triggered it's absolute. But Vaati exerted the full power of the cap and still got blown to smithereens.

LadyNintendo

Those aren't goddesses, those are oracles!

And nothing is disproved about TMC being the first tloz-game. I'm not saying it is, but in my opinion it could very well be.
The quotes from those figurines are "long line of" or something like that. Why do people keep thinking that the first storywise tloz-game happens near the beginning of everything? For all we know, there could've been thousands of Links/Heroes before that game. It could very well be that those girls in TMC are ancestors of the ones in OOx. Why wouldn't their jobs be a family tradition back then?