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Is it remotely possible for MC to be first?

Started by darkphantomime, October 07, 2006, 08:42:27 AM

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Is it remotely possible for MC to be first?

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NAY!!!
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Mysterious F.

I thought you were talking about something else entirely.  :-*


Takun

At the begining of MC it shows a picture of the hero who killed Vaati. This hero HAS NO HAT! Meaning that it could not be link. And if it was link then he would not be using the master sword he would be using the minish blade. And our hero link doesn't get his signiture green hat until the end of the game. Meaning that the Link generation didn't start wearing a hat until after MC. But all of the links wear green hats except for the link in MC. So that would prove that MC is first, in my oppinon.
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M-Warrior

Quote from: Takun on March 12, 2007, 04:18:24 PM
At the begining of MC it shows a picture of the hero who killed Vaati. This hero HAS NO HAT! Meaning that it could not be link. And if it was link then he would not be using the master sword he would be using the minish blade. And our hero link doesn't get his signiture green hat until the end of the game. Meaning that the Link generation didn't start wearing a hat until after MC. But all of the links wear green hats except for the link in MC. So that would prove that MC is first, in my oppinon.
The Hero of Men did not kill Vaati, he sealed off a bunch of monsters, which Vaati released. And MC Link wasn't the only one who didn't wear a hat at the begginning of the game.(WW Link and TP Link didn't wear a hat at the begginning either) But the rest I agree with.

Commodore Axilon

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lol it haz 2 be the 1st link cuz he dosnt hav a hat!!!1111!11!!

That's some fantastic logic right there. I'd really like somebody to tell why this line of reasoning makes any sense whatsoever.

Master Dragmire

Minish Cap.........
If you ask me, it is the first in the timeline for the simple reasoning that there are alot of elements pointing towards it.Such as no hat at the begining of MC. As for WW and TP, they both start out with normal hats that symbolize heroes of the past. Making more sense now?
The second reason being that if Minish Cap was ne other place on the timeline, that means one game in the series was played with a hat the entire time and instead of Link it was Gustaf.
And the final and third reason being that it is the only game in the series that doesnt mention Ganon.

Commodore Axilon

QuoteIf you ask me, it is the first in the timeline for the simple reasoning that there are alot of elements pointing towards it.Such as no hat at the begining of MC. As for WW and TP, they both start out with normal hats that symbolize heroes of the past. Making more sense now?

No it doesn't make sense. Because there's no reason to assume every Link has to have a floppy green hat. And he does have Ezlo, which I think would fit the bill anyway.

And you also assume each Link (or whoever gave him the clothes) would have some prior knowledge of the previous Links. And the fact that Links outfit isn't exactly very "outstanding" in Hyrule also hurts this theory. Are you saying only Links can dress like that?

QuoteThe second reason being that if Minish Cap was ne other place on the timeline, that means one game in the series was played with a hat the entire time and instead of Link it was Gustaf.

wat

You're going to have to elaborate on this point.

QuoteAnd the final and third reason being that it is the only game in the series that doesnt mention Ganon.

Firs of all, no it's not (Majora's Mask, Four Swords). Second of all, so what? Why should this matter at all? Explain to me why every game after TMC should have Ganon. Or why his absence would mean anything.

Vaati

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And just because Ganon wasn't in the game, doesn't mean he didn't exist at all. He could have been sealed away in the Master Sword for all we know. And Takun, in the beginning of Minish Cap, the boy who didn't have the hat (probably Link) didn't kill Vaati. In the very beginning, no one knew that Vaati was a villain, and so no one hated him or wanted to kill him. So how could Link kill him before he even did anything? All it said was that monsters started appearing around Hyrule and that the hero killed them off. And the monsters didn't look anything like Vaati. More like moblins. Also, just because the hero didn't have a hat, doesn't mean it couldn't be Link. I'm sure he wasn't born with the hat on.

Master Dragmire

OK,
If you have played WW you know that all boys dress like because they are expecting the return of the hero, or something like that..

Gustaf was the Hero of Men who was cap less. The MC speaks of him defeating evil. I'm not saying that this means that every Link wore a cap, but it just seems like that is the more assumable garb.And if it involves fighting evil there most likely has already been a Zelda game about it, but in this case there hasn't.

Vaati was Ganon's (or Ganondorf) puppet master. Ganon was possible using him to unvail evil unto the world and destroy any resistence before making his move onto the Triforce (Ocarina).

Evilslayer

Gustaf is merely an ancient King of Hyrule. There's nothing in the game that even hints that he may have been the ancient hero.

Geez, I'm seriously starting to dislike GameTrailers more and more. :'(

QuoteAnd the monsters didn't look anything like Vaati. More like moblins.

And who's the big boss of the Moblins? Yup, Ganon. :-*

Mysterious F.

Actually, Vaati had little to do with Ganon until FSA. And yes, FSA completely disproves your theory he wasn't mentioned, FSA is the second sequel to MC.

I don't believe in GameTrailers for that reason, Evilslayer.

Same with him not being hero guy dude.

Link from OOT got his clothes from Kokiri tradition, and TWW they where the clothes in honor of OOT Link. TP is after OOT, so of course OOT Link's clothes. LOZ and AOL Link was from outside of Hyrule, and I doubt other nations would follow another's traditions. The manga reveals that Oracle Link from a family of farmers, unknown for game. LTTP is probably random clothing.

Seriously, the only games stating importance in the clothes are TWW and TP, because of the Hero of Time.

Evilslayer

In ALttP there's actually a boy who resembles Link. Somewhat. So yes, I agree it's random in that game. It may be a coincidence, it may be fate. Or maybe the Legendary Hero is his idol? :-*

Vaati

Probably, that's probably the same reason why that one Goron in OoT when you're an adult is named after you. Lots of people look up to Link, it seems.

Master Dragmire

i hate this.....
can someone please explain to me in a very factual way why MC couldnt be first??

Commodore Axilon

Have you even been reading the thread? I'm not going to do your homework for you.

Mysterious F.

Well, I think people only think it's first because no evidence is against it. Problem is, no evidence points to it besides 'this and that aren't in it'.

Far more evidence points to OOT being first. More evidence points to the TWW being first, which isn't first at all!