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Started by Fairy penguin, February 28, 2007, 04:34:16 PM

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Mysterious F.

#60
April 03, 2007, 02:24:55 PM
It's had many names.

I wouldn't exactly tell everyone I met I wanted the Triforcebecause then the Hylian Government would rule me out as a threat and kill me.

Seriously, medieval kingdoms (which Hyrule is one of) are very similar to Nazi governments in their forms of getting rid of threats: downright eliminating them. Even a medieval pope has shown this, eliminating a small sect of Christianity getting popular in southern France. Governments throughout history have used this campaign, and even lie about something they displease saying they're a threat to the government and killed them off. (Ottomans killing Armenians before WWI)

He couldn't kill everyone: all of the Market citizens survived the attack according to a Mario game, and it seems the Gorons all lived too. Alot of the Kakariko citizens lived, the Kokiri children all survived. ? about the Gerudo, but the Zoras are a mystery, but based on how they appear in the end credits I assume they survive. In fact, few people at all seemed to die except knights.

Penguin dude 2

#61
April 03, 2007, 05:36:45 PM
I don't think the hylian government would kill a person for sayoing they wanted the Triforce. It would just waste resources on some guy that wants something. Oh, and I was fairy penguin, but then I couldn't log in, so I changed

Master Dragmire

#62
April 03, 2007, 08:00:14 PM
you know you can change ur name without changing your account right? I used to go by my user name Master Dragmire, the I went to MattAlxdr, and then to just Dragmire. I have had the same account for almost 2 years.

Mysterious F.

#63
April 04, 2007, 04:32:54 PM
If you mean that you changed your name on your original file and you can't log in on the original file, then use your original name when you log into the original file.

Penguin dude 2

#64
April 04, 2007, 06:25:41 PM
This isn't a different user name, it's a different account! My other one wouldn't login because I forgot to change the password and for some reason, I came back today and it was the other ine, but I decided I like this one better.
Anyway, I forgot to add in that Hyrule, or any other Zelda place doesn't seem like it's a dictatorship, so they wouldn't need to kill people who want the Triforce.

Commodore Axilon

#65
April 04, 2007, 06:30:56 PM
An absolute monarchy is a dictatorship, and that's exactly what Hyrule is. And there's no reason to assume every dictatorship has to be similar to the Third Reich or the Soviet Union; there could (theoretically) be benevolent dictatorships.

Just nitpicking that portion of your post. Move along, move along.

Penguin dude 2

#66
April 04, 2007, 08:16:08 PM
I thought deictorships incuded an evil/psycotic goverenment. :o I don't know how it would be benevolent.

Mysterious F.

#67
April 09, 2007, 12:57:45 PM
Dictators are, in government,

1) A person (or people) who has absolute power over the government without a blood heir.
2) In the Ancient Roman Republic who was given almost total comtrol over the government during the times of a crsis.

but that doesn't mean that the Hyrulian kings can't ACT like dictators by controlling the government single-handedly, or at least without an opposing power. Also, in MC, they had a minister, (Potho) so this absolute monarchy is broken in at least one game.

Also, dictatorship is when a country's government that is controlled by a dictator.

Commodore Axilon

#68
April 09, 2007, 01:09:54 PM
Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant. Someone with absolute control of the government, even if it's not technically the same.

And what exactly did Potho do?

Mysterious F.

#69
April 09, 2007, 01:17:58 PM
He is known to have been in charge of the education of Zelda when she was a child and is believed to be in charge of the Sword Ceremony at the beginning of MC, the one with the Four Sword.

Penguin dude 2

#70
April 09, 2007, 05:00:22 PM
O.K. I cosider dictators to be bad and sadistic, ruling with an iron fist. Hyrule has a blood line to pass down the power, proved in nearly every Zelda, since she is a princess.

Evilslayer

#71
April 10, 2007, 01:00:43 PM
Quotebut that doesn't mean that the Hyrulian kings can't ACT like dictators by controlling the government single-handedly, or at least without an opposing power. Also, in MC, they had a minister, (Potho) so this absolute monarchy is broken in at least one game.

Do they even have a government? And Potho seems more like an advisor than someone who actually shares on the power.

Mysterious F.

#72
April 10, 2007, 01:33:16 PM
That's exactly what I would say, Evilslayer. He only does minor things. This is just like what Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain did: they gave people useless positions to make them feel they are doing something for their country.

I actually think Hyrule resembles the Holy Roman Empire. It's just many different countries (though no longer looked upon as countries but rather as states) being dominated by the most powerful of them. (Hylia and the Gerudo Monarchy; dominant one switches from time to time)

Hylia is like Austria due to how it is the official dominant state and also is a very sophisticated society. The Gerudo Monarchy is like Prussia being militarily probably the most powerful state and also having one ruler who is generally in charge of the government's most important parts.

What you consider a dictator is what most people consider one, but the OFFICIAL definition says one who dominates the government/nation single-handedly. And the bloodline only helps to prove absolute monarchy, which is the same thing except with absolutely no other government power and moves from one heir to the next.

xarlote

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