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Started by Fairy penguin, February 28, 2007, 04:34:16 PM

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Commodore Axilon

#45
Quote from: Kannochi on March 20, 2007, 01:24:01 PM
Grandma did talk about the legend and Link puts on Hero Clothes, more proof?

That's five posts above you. Jesus.

Master Dragmire

I didn't say that they didn't know about them Kannochi, I simply said that the Sages fabricated the Royal Knight Bloodline thing to better explain the Heroes power , or they didn't want all the questions about his origins and his rise to power. It would be kinda hard for him to explain that a Kokiri child  defeated a giant arachind, bombed a ancient dinosaur and fought inside the belly of a giant fish, and then sent to the future using three stones, a magical ocarina, and a blessed sword.

Fairy penguin

I don't think they would have done that. Why would the sages care what people speculate? A lot of people saw adult Link running around and liberating places.

Master Dragmire

Umm its kind of the only way they could have done it, because no Zelda is played through the eyes of a hero from the Royal Knight Bloodline except ALttP which mentioned it in the first place. It has been speculated that the hero was Gustaf but I do not beleive it...

Fairy penguin

Why does it matter if no other Zelda is played throught the ayes of someone in the knights bloodline? TWW proves that everyone knew about Link saving everyone. it says Ganon took over, and Linl came from nowhere and killed Ganon. Also, if you read the backstory of LttP, it says people were going after the Triforce. In OoT people don't evevn talk about it. It also states that Ganon already had the whole Triforce. And there was no mention of a hero in the manual, just the knights protecting the sages as they cast a really long seal that. In OoT, Hyrule had already lost a long time ago, and the sages spell took very little time to cast. Thats some pretty big inconsistencies. And with Ganon already in the Sacred Realm, I don't see how the final fight in OoT could be LttP.

Master Dragmire

WOW
Uhhh have you ever actually played ALttP, or at least seen the intro?
It says one day, the door to the Sacred Realm was opened suddenly. This would be about the time Link is asleep! My God, just put yourself in a citizen of Hyrules shoes, "Wow, this ancient door that hasn't been opened in many years has just been opened! I never even knew about it! What? Theirs a mystical golden triangle in the Golden Land that grants any wish? Man, Im gonna grab it before any one else!" Thus, the quarrellings mentioned in the opening intro of ALttP. Then they became monsters, which Ganondorf used in his invasion. Link awakens, awakens the sages as ordered by the King, then challenges Ganon while knights protected the sages. Also, Ganon was never, ever in the Sacred Realm during the time of OoT. Ganondorf was, but Link was asleep then.

Mysterious F.

I actually think the 'followers' of Ganon spoken of at the beginning of LTTP are the Gerudo. Ganon killed them, used the Triforce to bring a bunch of people (soldiers and Market Citizens, explaining their disappearance) into the Realm, (which he ruled) Ganon got out, Link woke up, awoke sages, beet Ganon, Sages sealed him into Dark World and sealed entrance, and they all lived happily ever after.

Evilslayer

He never lured anyone. That was a mistranslated. In fact, the whole game is a gallery of mistranslations. For one, the future in OoT can't be the "Imprisonning War" because of the Japanese version.

According to the Japanese version "Ganon's malice" attacked Hyrule Castle, and then the Hylian sages sealed away the "source of evil". That fits a lot better with the Split Timeline and TP.

Master Dragmire


War-
1.   a conflict carried on by force of arms, as between nations or between parties within a nation; warfare, as by land, sea, or air.
2.   a state or period of armed hostility or active military operations: The two nations were at war with each other.

technically this can and was a war.

Ganon's malice is Ganondorf.
Hylian does not always refer to the race. All the races live in Hyrule so they are all Hylian.

Mysterious F.

No, Hylia is the Kingdom of the Hylian race before the War that killed OOT Link's parents when he was a baby. Hyruleans is the correct term.

Crappy American version...

Fairy penguin

All the knights were DEAD! >:( Ganon killed them all ::). The sages didn't need proyecting because they were in the temple of Light, and not in Hyrule.People didn't know about the Triforce because when Ganon touched it, he got Power, Link got Courage, and Zelda got Wisdom. None of the people could have seen it. The spell didn't take a long time like the manual described, it took like, 2 seconds. Ganon didn't kill the Gerudo because they would do whatever he said. Why would he kill of his own army?

Commodore Axilon

#56
Quote from: Fairy penguin on March 29, 2007, 07:18:57 AM
All the knights were DEAD!

What? What makes you think this?

I'm not going to bother with your other points because I believe the story was more of a legend than what actually happened.

Master Dragmire

So, the sages sealed the Sacred Realm from within the Sacred Realm? WOW THAT MAKES ALOT OF SENSE!
So, the fight with Ganon AND  Ganondorf took two minutes? OH COOL!
So, no one knew about the Triforce even though there was a huge temple built to protect the entrance to it? WOW THAT ALSO MAKES ALOT OF SENSE!

The fight with Ganon took more than two minutes, during the fight, the sages, in Hyrule, were preparing the spell to seal Ganon in the Sacred Realm.

The statement that no one no about the Triforce is simply mentally retarded. The Hylian Royal Family seemed to use it as the simple of their kingdom. Why wouldn't they tell there citizens what it was? The old man in blue in Hyrule Castle Town seemed to know.

Mysterious F.

ALL citizens apparently knew about the Triforce.

The sages knew how to get out, according to how they're seen on Death Mountain during the end credits.

Fairy penguin

What makes me think the knights are dead?! Because Ganon killed people to take over. He probably killed everyone who opposed him so he could rule. Why would he let people who opposed him live? O.K. I was wrong about people knowing, but I never heard them saying how obsessed with getting it they were. I remember very few citizens who said they wanted the Triforce for themselves. Also, in LttP, people called it the Golden Power, not the Triforce.