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Revised Theory: Hylian "Real World" Ancestors

Started by JoeLink, May 06, 2009, 08:53:49 PM

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JoeLink

Remember when I theorized that the romans were the hylians ancestors. Well I did some "research", and have changed my theory.
I now believe that the ancient Greeks were the hylians ancestors. Their architecture was actually stolen by the romans, and they were commonly enslaved by the romans. So I theorize that to escape from the hardships of slavery, the greeks built boats and sailed through the Mediterannean Sea (the Great Sea), but were caught in a harsh storm. It was then that the Oocca came and guided them through the storm to what would one day become the kingdom of Hyrule. Once there, they settled and befriended the various races of the new land and adopted some of their legends.

I just thought I'd share this. You don't have to believe it. 8)

Hi no Seijin

Quote from: Rorschach Mikaudes on March 11, 2009, 11:29:22 PM
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on March 11, 2009, 05:09:45 PM
Quote from: JoeLink on March 11, 2009, 12:12:24 PM
Many great people had their ideas called "delusional", and they ended up famous. So I am just going to ignore what you said. :P
Oh, you mean like Johannes Kepler?  Or Galileo Galilei?  Didn't it turn out that they were, you know, right?  You do know that their ideas were actually based on solid evidence, correct?
I don't know what you mean HNS, of course there is solid evidence!
The fact that Miyamoto desgined WindWaker to have the same constelations as Earth clearly means that he found some obscure book in Japan that told the story of an ancient civilization from Rome that somehow managed to go unsuspected by all the contemporary cultures, brought the world to the brink of destruction quite a lot of times, had roughly 1500 years of secret history, then vanished (along with all the monsters, architecture, heck! even their physical laws) and left all but a lonely book that wound up on a different ocean and that was able to be translated by a Japanese kid in the 50's.
Geez HNS, don't you have you know, like common sense?
Mikaudes sarcasm works here as well, so here we go.  Now I don't have to repeat myself.  At least not for everything.

As neat as it would be for Hyrule to have once existed on Earth, the plain truth of it is that it never did; it is just far too implausible that such a large nation that would have had such a huge impact on the world could exist without any other civilization knowing about it, and the only record of its existence is a book found on the other side of the world by a child who kept it a secret.

To prove that such a nation as Hyrule could have once existed on Earth, you would need solid evidence that can't be refuted and has to be logical.  All of your evidence is non-existential and illogical, and when you try to present it as factual, you're wrong.  Europe has a relatively excellent record for their region and their time period, and they show no record about Hyrule.  Hyrule would be a large nation, and large nations are not easy to hide.  Consider also that Ganon's goal of conquering the world would have affected Rome, and like hell they would take that lying down, as they were going for the same goal.  Of course they would take note of it, and I highly doubt they would get rid of any record about it; see, Ganon may not have attacked the Romans directly, but he would send minions to attack Rome.  Considering that an army of skeletons and two-legged pigs did not conquer the Roman Empire, they never existed, for the Romans would have celebrated this victory and make a record about it.  There's also the fact that Hyrule would have had thousands of years of history behind it.  The Roman Empire reached it's height at around 2,000 years ago, and if that's about the time Hyrule was founded, it would probably still exist today, and we definitely have no record of a large, medieval kingdom over in Europe or anywhere else in the world.  True, humans still haven't discovered every single landmark Earth has to offer, but we're talking about a decent sized kingdom with it's own culture; that is something we would without a doubt notice.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but a Hyrule on Earth is not possible; it's just wishful thinking, and it would be a waste of time to try to convince the whole world otherwise.
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JoeLink

Then how is it North and South America went unnoticed for hundreds of years, huh? And Hyrule is not THAT big of a kingdom, it was supposedly a relatively small island in the middle of the Mediterannean sea.

    And heres something to think about: TWW: Nudge: "Respect has nothing to do with how long you've been on the EARTH, but you're probably to young to understand that."

And: TWW: Makar: "When all went dark around me I thought my time on the EARTH was over."

And they're not talking about dirt or land, they're talking about the planet EARTH.

So....Ha! Take that!


The Glamour Nazi

Might Just be Japanese to English Translation errors.

Or the lack of better words to discribe the world they live on.

Man, Think before you talk.

MagmarFire

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Quote from: JoeLink on May 08, 2009, 06:20:36 PM
And they're not talking about dirt or land, they're talking about the planet EARTH.

So....Ha! Take that!

Um...no, they're not? (Hehe, I can argue the same way, too! =D )

Again, earth is not capitalized if it's being used as a synonym for land or existence. It's as simple as that. Nintendo messing up the same word two times in the same game is quite a long shot if you ask me. You're just rejecting my argument outright without any proof against mine, only saying adamantly that what they said has to have a particular meaning without any regard for whatever other interpretation can be read from it.

Dare I ask which argument, then, is the stronger of the two?



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JoeLink

Thats not really true. Earth can mean the planet earth even if it's not capatalized (I've seen it in my science books), so thats not really any proof at all. 8)

TP Zelda

Well just because it's YOUR science book doesn't mean it's right. Does your science book say that man evolved from apes? NO.


And they're not literally talking about OUR EARTH. They're talking about THEIR earth. Not ours, theirs.

Anyway, I think you need to listen to other people.

JoeLink

How many planet earths are there? Last I checked there was only one. 8)

TP Zelda

You just don't get it do you?

THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THEIR EARTH.
NOT OURS.
What, are they supposed to call their planet "Mars"?

Ok, tell me. Suppose Hyrule really was on OUR earth. How does Nintendo know something that everyone else in the world doesn't?

HylianHero92

Even if they were talking about our Earth, that doesn't prove they existed. It's fictional.

TP Zelda

I mean SURE it'd be awesome if Hyrule was real.

Sure it even could have existed once and everything and everyone went extinct and it's all buried int the ocean now, or even buried under us.
That could explain how we never find anything.
But how can you explain the timeline and as I asked before, how would NIntendo know something that everyone else int he world doesn't?

Uximadesk

#11
OK, that does it. I need real proof, JoeLink.

Go into Google Earth, find those places you think are Hyrule/Great Sea, New Hyrule, Termina, Holdrum, Labryna and Calatia, then post the coordinates. If you say Hyrule is as recent as it is, the configuration of the islands and land masses can not have possibly changed beyond recognition.

Pretty please?
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TP Zelda

If I am correct, theories are backed up with real proof.


Uximadesk

True, without solid proof, it's just speculation, or at best a hypothesis IF the observation makes perfec sense.
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JoeLink

#14
Dude, like I said before, ITS BURIED BENEATH THE SEA. The land has obviously been destroyed by underwater erosion. And I'm pretty sure a land can be forgotten, especially if it was BURIED BENEATH THE SEA.

And I'm pretty sure that Labrynna and Holodrum would've been caught up in the flood too. And I don't believe in New Hyrule. I think TWW/PH are the last stories(games) in the timeline. I also believe in a single timeline.

I'm not trying to make you believe, I'm just trying to post my beliefs. I am sorry if it came out like that. I mean, everybody has something to believe that gives them hope right? This is what gives me hope. :(