Project Cafe's new controller (leaked)

[Deku]

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I don't know what to think about the new controller. I don't know if I like it yet. I kind of just wanted a regular controller, but you know Nintendo...

"WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING NOBODY HAD DONE BEFORE"

"... But I just want good video games."

"WE'RE GOING TO REVOLUTIONIZE GAMEPLAY AS WE KNOW IT"

"... Dude, again, I just want games.

"WE'VE GOT AN ALL NEW 3D MOTION SENSITIVE CONTROLLER THAT MAKES YOU BREAKFAST AND FLIES YOU TO SCHOOL!!"

"... I just want a regular controller with amazing games... I don't want gimmicks..."

"GO BUY AN XBOX."

>.<

This new system had better blow me away.

[Twilight Wolf]

Supposedly this new console, provided it exists, is supposed to help Nintendo recapture the harcore market.

Honestly? I'd give a lot more of my attention (and money) to Nintendo if they dropped their insistence on having some gimmick for every new thing they create. ._.

[MagmarFire]

One man's gimmick is another man's deal sealer.

I myself don't have so much opinion on the hardware other than that I hope it's not "too loaded," so to speak. A high resolution on that screen would provide a drastic reduction in battery life, like on the 3DS. Then again, it's not a handheld console, so that property isn't as meaningful as it would be if it were.

I guess I'll just have to wait until E3 to develop a more thorough opinion. Until then, don't fret; it's clearly a prototype.

[Deku]

According to one of the comments on the article, the controller may be able to charge itself as you're playing. What I'm most worried about is how much the controller alone is going to cost. That thing CAN'T be cheap to produce- how much is it going to cost me?

[Gamefreak]

According to one of the comments on the article, the controller may be able to charge itself as you're playing. What I'm most worried about is how much the controller alone is going to cost. That thing CAN'T be cheap to produce- how much is it going to cost me?

Nintendo has obviously mastered fusion energy and is using it to power their video game consoles now.

Honestly, the fact that Nintendo has to completely redo everything in existence with each new release is the only thing that has kept it going.  When it was just doing the same thing as Xbox and the PS2, it was failing hard.

[Keaton]

True, but the Gamecube is still one of the most solid consoles in existence.

[Twilight Wolf]

The thing is, though, they weren't doing what everyone else was doing. Not quite. They limited both of their previous consoles enough to hold themselves back.

Look at the N64. The most powerful console out of the three main ones available at the time -- lots of potential there. But because of Nintendo's crippling (and probably irrational) fear of piracy they stuck with cartridges while everyone else was moving on to CDs, and in so doing they really squandered the system's potential. Powerful hardware can only do so much if your games and their soundtracks have to be small enough to fit onto cartridges, and I know this drove away developers like Square Enix. Cartridges are also expensive as hell to mass-produce, especially compared to CDs, and as such games could get very pricey at retail, and while you could have multi-CD games if a game was too big to fit on one disc, it would be far too expensive to have multi-cartridge games. And in retrospect, even if the PlayStation was very easy to pirate games for, that didn't stop it from selling 100,000,000+ units worldwide, and Sony moved tons of games, as well. I guarantee you if the N64 had a CD drive it would have slaughtered the PlayStation.

Now the GameCube: Respectable hardware. Good games. But the problem with the GameCube was that while Nintendo's competitors made consoles that not only played games, but doubled as all-in-one home entertainment systems, the GameCube was limited to just games. This is in part because of, again, Nintendo's crippling fear of piracy, but also their cheapness -- by using a non-standard breed of DVD (both in size and in technical details), they avoided having to pay to license whatever codecs were required to play DVD movies. The reason the PS2 sold so very well is that not only was it a well-supported game console, but also because at launch, and for a few years after that, it was by far the cheapest DVD player available on the market -- it practically created the DVD market in Japan. Even when cheaper DVD players became available, guess what? It was still a PlayStation 2. By the time DVD playback just became a nice extra, it had enough ground that consumers and developers knew it would still be a good investment.

The GameCube also sorely lacked what was quickly becoming a very important feature to gamers: online gameplay. The GameCube had -- wait for it -- three online-capable games in its entire library. I'm sure I don't need to tell you how big a success Xbox Live turned out to be, and the PS2 had its share of online games as well. Even the Dreamcast had a respectable number of online games for as short-lived as it and SegaNet were. But Nintendo was, and still is, firmly stuck in the past, as evidenced by how sloppy and unintuitive the Wii's online features are.

I think if Nintendo had stuck more to what its competition was doing they'd have been more competitive in the past two generations rather than being relegated to second and third place...

[Keaton]

Although all that you said there is well-thought-out and informative-- and ultimately true, Nintendo (i.e. Miyamoto) is firmly set in the uniqueness, off-the-wall family-based fun that is and always has been Nintendo.  Once Miyamoto steps down (or dies, if that ever happens), I'm sure their company policy will change.  Still though, the two larger companies are trying to reverse-engineer the few things that make the Wii a unique system, and for the most part, they're failing at it.  When it comes to motion sensitivity, the Wii will always be a step ahead of the EyeToy and that other xbox-type thingy.  At least in the next few years.

Whether they're third-best or top dog, Nintendo is still making more money than you could ever conceive making in your lifetime, and they're not showing any signs of relenting.

[Twilight Wolf]

I won't disagree with that. I just don't think it's fair to blame Nintendo's failure in the past on them following the crowd when it was their own choice to limit their capability for success. Not that either the N64 or a GameCube were really a failure, especially compared to their competition with Sega, but compared to their competition with Sony and (later) Microsoft, they didn't do very well.

[Keaton]

Success is not about sales, in the long run.  Which is a 90's kid going to remember for the rest of his life, the first time he beat that one shooter that was about halos and floods or something, or OCARINA OF MOFUGGIN TIME

[Pale Dim]

It looks cool.


...Thats all I got. Either they put themselves back into the arena and kick some serious halo-loving patootie, or I'm going to stick with Microsoft for as long as they are on the market.


...I don't care what you guys say, I'm never touching Sony.

[Keaton]

It looks cool.


...Thats all I got. Either they put themselves back into the arena and kick some serious halo-loving patootie, or I'm going to stick with Microsoft for as long as they are on the market.


...I don't care what you guys say, I'm never touching Sony.

Playstation > > > > > > > XBox

[Deku]

It looks cool.


...Thats all I got. Either they put themselves back into the arena and kick some serious halo-loving patootie, or I'm going to stick with Microsoft for as long as they are on the market.


...I don't care what you guys say, I'm never touching Sony.

Playstation > > > > > > > XBox

Rainbow Dash ======= Wrong

Playstations are terrible. I have a couple of cousins and couple of friends who were sony fans from Playstation 1. PS1 had some alright games, I'll admit. But everyone I know who bought a PS2 admitted they were regretful. ALL of them broke down within the first 2 years of use, while my durable little GameCube still works to this day.

As far as Playstation 3 goes, all but one of my friends hate theirs. In fact, one of my cousins calls it, "The most expensive paper weight I ever bought". This is probably because he bought it solely for gaming, and if you're a serious gamer you're going to hate it. Playstation 3 is a good investment for the softcore gamer. It's seriously multifunctional. It's just not what I'm looking for in a gaming experience.

I went to my friend's house a couple of months ago and we were playing Call of Duty Black Ops. The competition was seriously tame compared to X-Box players. X-Box holds a lot more competitive online gaming because consumers know where the party's at. If Nintendo doesn't wow me with some seriously awesome games real soon, I'm saying goodbye to Nintendo altogether. X-Box is amazing, and it's one of the best decisions I've made in my life. Microsoft knows how to charge out the anus, but it's worth it to me.

[Hi no Seijin]

I'm not entirely sold on the XBox, but that's because most of the games that I'd like to play that can be played on XBox can also be played on the PS3, which I'd like to get for both gaming and movies, so the PS3 is the more logical purchase for me.  And the only thing that really bugs me about the PS3 is the fact that it can't play PS2 games.  Or was that just the earlier models?  I seem to remember talking to TW about how the more recent PS3 models had complete backwards compatability.

As for Nintendo, I care more for the games than the actual consoles.  The only technical feature that I'm really excited about with the 3DS is the improved graphics (seriously, have you guys seen the screenshots for OoT 3DS?  They're freaking awesome!); I could care less for the 3D feature, and I don't see myself using it at all.

As for this new console, my first impression of it was that it was an oversized DS.  I doubt we need a screen on our controller, but I'll wait to hear more from Nintendo before forming a more concrete opinion.

[Deku]

I could care less for the 3D feature, and I don't see myself using it at all.

I concur entirely. I was down at my local comic shop playing Magic with some of the guys down there, and my buddy Mike was playing Street Fighter on the 3DS. The graphics were insane, I agree with you HNS
I can't wait to play Ocarina on the 3DS. Seriously, if I can't afford one, I'm stealing one

Nintendo will have at least 1 3DS unit and 1 copy of OoT unaccounted for XD