Is it remotely possible for MC to be first?

[Commodore Axilon]

Commodore, Ganon was reincarnated as a Gerudo in FSA, disproving what you said about it being unfounded.

What are you talking about? I said that when I was under the impression he believed he was reincarnated in OoT, not FSA. I'm not gonna disregard actual canon, Whocares. ;D

In fact, I'm not exactly sure what he's arguing anymore. So I'll wait for him to return to clarify.

Also, Commodore, if you use anything that could be considered a sensored banned word (like *ss and fawk) it will count as cussing and will get you a warning. You've used it too much to ignore.

Fine, I'll quit the censoring. But I really do us "fark" all the time in real life. Are gonna ban "heck," "darn," and "crap" now because they're substitutes?

[Mysterious F.]

Not those, but fawk and *ss are considered censored, and those words are on the ban list, minor substitutes for minor words that can be considered bad, like heck, darn, and crap, don't count.

[darkphantomime]

Not those, but fawk and *ss are considered censored, and those words are on the ban list, minor substitutes for minor words that can be considered bad, like heck, darn, and crap, don't count.

We already made a point on this, if it's censored to any point, it cannot be warnable.

If you think otherwise, take it up with Gamefreak, Evilslayer or ZV. (I notice that evilslayer swears, but it seems you turn a blind eye)

[Mysterious F.]

Since when does he? I've never noticed. And if it was more than a month ago, than it doesn't matter at all.

Also, we NEVER said anything about that, EVER. Unless you can find me proof that has been recent (the past 4 months) then what you're saying isn't true.

[darkphantomime]

Just look on the last page, you'll see that there be a quote of his with a swear word.

And since no one said anything, you rule = moot. We've allowed words to be censored, if only partially before. It's only  you and it's only now that you've gone on this subject. Because no one said anything on this, that means there is no rule in relation to what you pointed out as 'swearing'.

And please, get back on topic. I believe we were debating on the possibility of Ganon reincarnating in OoT or not. The thing is, wouldn't the people notice that Ganondorf bears a similar name to a demon of the past? But they didn't seem to notice and let him thrive on and on...

[Mysterious F.]

You mean damn? That doesn't count.

Actually, it's quite the opposite. Even if it is considered censored, the exact use of it could pretty much overrule the censor. Overuse of the 'censorship' could also rule out the censorship part. And I've gone on it before, too.

[MasterKeyX]

Okay, here my thoughts on this argument: if the words are censored to any degree at all, and clearly unrecognizable as a curse, then its not warnable. Okay. Got it? It isn't a hard concept to grasp. Why is this argument always coming up?

[Mysterious F.]

Because there are limits to how much the censorship can be used as an excuse. If you are using it to directly insult someone, like this (Note: I don't really mean it)

F*ck you *Insert member's name here*!

then it does surpass the limit and is a warning. And the overuse of censorship will eventually get old and count as cussing.

[darkphantomime]

Except he didn't use it to insult anyone, therefore, no warning.

[Mysterious F.]

Not directly, but depending on amount of times used it could still count. Take a look at Commodore's last 50 posts, for example. Wait, bad example. All of his posts in April.

And for clarification, I never gave him a warning for that except when he did use it inultingly, at least a week ago.

[Evilslayer]

Because it's just unfounded speculation. And something happening once doesn't necessarily mean it happened before.

Alright. My point was that because it's happened at least once using his birth as evidence that OoT is first is unfounded speculation.

You know, there was that whole war mentioned in TP...

You know, there is a very large possibility that Ganon was involved in that war. Did you hear his laugh? I think the Shadow Links symbolices a trio of villains. They look the way they do in the cut-scene because they are shrouded in mystery.

A Hero than appeared and defeated their leader, Ganon; hence saving him from being banished to the Twilight Realm together with his minion. The Hero, however, was corrupted by the Fused Shadow and became the new leader of the Interlopers.

Well, then excuse me for being confused as to what the fark we're arguing about. You're telling me that you believe TMC/FS/FSA comes after OoT?

Actually, I believe they come after TWW. :-*

EDIT: Oh, and about the added a I put in daemon. It's the classic way of typing it. It's like faerie.

[Commodore Axilon]

Alright. My point was that because it's happened at least once using his birth as evidence that OoT is first is unfounded speculation.

But it actually says he was reincarnated in FSA. There's no such evidence in OoT.

You know, there is a very large possibility that Ganon was involved in that war. Did you hear his laugh? I think the Shadow Links symbolices a trio of villains. They look the way they do in the cut-scene because they are shrouded in mystery.

A Hero than appeared and defeated their leader, Ganon; hence saving him from being banished to the Twilight Realm together with his minion. The Hero, however, was corrupted by the Fused Shadow and became the new leader of the Interlopers.

There's really nothing to disprove this theory, I just don't like it. Ganon doesn't have to be behind everything you know.

Actually, I believe they come after TWW. :-*

Ah, I see. But you also believe Ganon existed before OoT, correct? But it just hasn't been shown in any of the games?

EDIT: Oh, and about the added a I put in daemon. It's the classic way of typing it. It's like faerie.

I know, I just think it's silly. I mean, if we're gonna go that route, why not just go full out? I give you "dæmon." ;D

[Evilslayer]

But it actually says he was reincarnated in FSA. There's no such evidence in OoT.

I think you're mixing proof and evidence. There's no proof, but there are evidence that suggest the possibility. :-*

There's really nothing to disprove this theory, I just don't like it. Ganon doesn't have to be behind everything you know.

Not everything, yes. I can agree there. But it's my belief that Ganon is the "Morgoth" of Hyrule, not the "Sauron". The legend in TP seems to be Hyrule's "Adam & Eve" myth.

Ah, I see. But you also believe Ganon existed before OoT, correct? But it just hasn't been shown in any of the games?

Yes, that's right. Actually, the reason I argue so strongly for it is all those OoT fanatics who calls OoT Link the "original" Link.

Personally, I think the first game in the Timeline needs to be something much vaster, more epic, etc. And of course, there needs to be lots of lore. Some could expand on lore from other games, and some should be new.

Actually, I'd like one, only one, game to take place before OoT. The Hero in that game should, or at least that's my opinion, be the greatest of all the Links.

Well, for the moment. Nintendo doesn't like limits. :-*

[Takun]

Actually I do think It was first. Because at the end of MC, Ezlo is returned to his normal form. He then gives Link the green hat that all Links have. That might mean that the signiture green hat started after MC. Because it was the first green hat link had gotton that wasn't a magical one. Sorry if Nintendo says differently. They probably only add these details to watch us debate over what is and isn't.

[darkphantomime]

Oh god, the green hat debate all over again. I'm outta here!