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Does Zelda need a "Reboot"?

Started by Horsehead, March 29, 2007, 09:04:31 AM

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IronKnuckle

I think they should have kindof a prequel to OOT. There is a war mentioned in OOT after which Hyrule is formed. Mabey have it before or during this war, thus Hyrule hasn't been formed yet and all the races are not under the Royal Family. This would make things intresting.

Mysterious F.

The island should be shaped like a backwards C, but the beack should stretch out far. Along the edge of the enitre island is a long chain of mountains that move around the island and protect its waters. On the northern and southern tips of the island the line splits from the island and goes through the ocean, making a ring around the southeastern island. Olny one part of the ring has a hole, and it leads into a bay, where the port of the island is. The island is also technologically advanced compared to the other two.

The port is full of many people, but the main popualtion is Gerudo. The city is famous for its vast quantities of knowledge, libraries, and schools. It is the knowledge center of the world, all information eventually makes way into the city. Many people have traveled here to learn.

Going north-northeast, you will travel through a thick desert full of many monsters hiding in the sand waiting for you. No life is there at all, and several dead skeletons should lie along the ground.

In the center of the islnad is the capital, which is the center of a major civil war destroying the country. The northern half of the island, which is mainly Subrosian, has seperated from the country and have began many attacks on the capital. It is hard to say who is the true owner of the city, the rebels are sieging it contsantly, but the loyals always push them out. It was once a beautiful city. The houses in both the capital and the port is mainly Ancient Egyptian Style. Population is mainly Gerudo.

Outside the city's west side is the Palace, which has been abandoned. Only through the city can one get the palace. All things have been removed. The Royal Family has moved into a small island resort of the coast of the island. In the throne room on the floor is a Triforce, and the Wisdom peace is glowing.

In the north, jsut along the mountanous ring, is the Subrosian village, where the houses are mud huts and the capital is a five story tall building. It's population has decreased do to the revolution because most troops come from here.

In the middle of these three islands' sea is a large storm center that almost never stops sotrming, and navigation is impossible. It is shaped like an upside-down triangle.


And here's a Triforce reference: If you draw a straight line from each island to another, then you would make a triangle. And the storm center in between them is an upside-down triangle in the middle. So what does this make? The Triforce itself.

And each island secretly holds a Trifroce peace: The fountain in the caslte hasd the Power Fragment in it, the Wall in the Goron Emperor's throne room has Courage, and the floor on the abandoned palace's throne room has Wisdom. Each island reflects upon the peace it holds: Hyrule has the most POWERful military, the Incan style island has the most COURAGEous leader, and the desert island has the greatest WISDOM in the world. And each of them is in the exact place their Triforce is in the sea: Hyrule in the north, the Goron one in the southwest, and the desert one in the southeast.

Evilslayer

QuoteThe Moblins aren't even a race, they are an enemy type. And if your want to put the Zoras as they were in the original LOZ, than so are they.

There are good and bad Moblins. They talk. They wield weapons and wear clothes. In TWW they even sleep in bed! They are much more of a race than the Zoras ever were before OoT.

QuoteIn regards to the overworld. First off its not "overused" TPs overworld looks entirely diffrent from OOTs. Alttp didn't even take place in the same country as OOT and TP. Alttp takes place in New Hyrule(after WW) OOT and TP are in Old Hyrule. Even if it was overused,

The desert and lake are both at the same place as in OoT. The Faron Woods are to the south. Even the bridge near Kakariko Village have been reused! There's no doubt that TP Hyrule is heavily influenced by OoT Hyrule.

ALttP takes place in the Child Timeline, probably a few centuries after TP. That's what Aonuma says. What you used as a fact is merely a theory.

QuoteThere is no way they could explain it in the game. What would it be like if California suddenly changed into a rainforest? Thats pretty much what your suggesting.

And how does Lake Hylia change from east to west? Each Hyrule is an alternate version of Hyrule. They don't need to explain any such thing. If Nintendo decides to change the Overworld they WILL change the Overworld.

There's also no way to, for example, explain how Zora's Domain moves from Death Mountain to a mountain much farther to the north.

QuoteEither Midna or Vaati should come back, preferably Midna.

Some of the worst sins a video game developer can commit is adding a character in a future game just because he/she has a big fan base. I don't mind Vaati. But adding Midna would kill the ending to TP.

DW

Yes, Midna is definitely done.

If you take into account the effects of Continental Drift, I think that would help explain Zora's Domain moving...
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Evilslayer

Except that takes millions of years. :-*

Commodore Axilon

#65
Uh, no it doesn't. First of all, continental drift takes hundreds of thousands of years for any noticeable change to happen. And second of all, if that were the case, why hasn't everything else moved?

Edit: Curses, foiled again!

DW

This isn't Earth, remember. I assume it is similar to Earth in structure, because of how it maintains life and how plant life and such looks similar, but it doesn't mean the physics and such are the same. The continents could drift much, much faster. If the core of the planet was hotter than Earth's, the convection currents could travel faster, carrying the plates faster.
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Mysterious F.

What about my Hyrule? What do you think?

Marcamillian

They should make the dungeons less... "get item...work out how  to use item on boss". There should be more of a difficulty level in the bosses, your ability to beat them shouldnt be defined by the finding of a weapon but your ability to fight. Im all for new weapons but when they only have the lifespan of one dungeon and are never used again... thats just lazy. The spinner was a really cool item, and it was used once or twice in the overworld map but i woulda liked it to be used more.

Also get the towns right... more variations in the things NPC's say. In TP there was little incentive to hang around in Hyrule town as most people didnt speak and spouted the same old stuff again and again.

Fishalicious

Quote from: Marcamillian on April 29, 2007, 12:23:52 PM
Also get the towns right... more variations in the things NPC's say. In TP there was little incentive to hang around in Hyrule town as most people didnt speak and spouted the same old stuff again and again.

The Hyrule Castle town kind of annoyed me for that matter... I was running around trying to talk to people, but... no one cares. ;w; I do like the people at night near the doctor's, though. "Who do you think that guy is?"
"I wonder who that guy is... >>"

The NPCs were fairly boring in TP, if you ask me...

Bboy94

Quote from: Marcamillian on April 29, 2007, 12:23:52 PM
They should make the dungeons less... "get item...work out how  to use item on boss". There should be more of a difficulty level in the bosses, your ability to beat them shouldnt be defined by the finding of a weapon but your ability to fight. Im all for new weapons but when they only have the lifespan of one dungeon and are never used again... thats just lazy. The spinner was a really cool item, and it was used once or twice in the overworld map but i woulda liked it to be used more
You could just go play a different game too.


Also, Lake Hylia, the greatest change is really in MC, when it move above the forest. All the other times, you can simply turn the map.

IronKnuckle

Quote from: Evilslayer on April 29, 2007, 07:47:30 AM


QuoteIn regards to the overworld. First off its not "overused" TPs overworld looks entirely diffrent from OOTs. Alttp didn't even take place in the same country as OOT and TP. Alttp takes place in New Hyrule(after WW) OOT and TP are in Old Hyrule. Even if it was overused,

The desert and lake are both at the same place as in OoT. The Faron Woods are to the south. Even the bridge near Kakariko Village have been reused! There's no doubt that TP Hyrule is heavily influenced by OoT Hyrule.

ALttP takes place in the Child Timeline, probably a few centuries after TP. That's what Aonuma says. What you used as a fact is merely a theory.

QuoteThere is no way they could explain it in the game. What would it be like if California suddenly changed into a rainforest? Thats pretty much what your suggesting.

And how does Lake Hylia change from east to west? Each Hyrule is an alternate version of Hyrule. They don't need to explain any such thing. If Nintendo decides to change the Overworld they WILL change the Overworld.

There's also no way to, for example, explain how Zora's Domain moves from Death Mountain to a mountain much farther to the north

The bridge by Kakarico in OOT is 10ft long and 3ft over the water. The bridge in TP (if you mean the Bridge of Eldin) is 150ft long and 500ft above the water. There is no way you can say the TP bridge is like the OOT one.

Lake Hylia is east to you becuase you probly have the Wii version. It was mirrored from left to right becuase most people are right handed. They had to mirror the whole game to make the Wiimote work with a left handed character. In the GC version, Lake Hylia is in the west just like OOT.  

Zoras domain was never at Death Mountian!!!!

Mysterious F.

It was at a mountain close to Death Mountain. And yes, the last time I checked, a point on Earth with elevation much higher than the surrounding area (Zora River) is a mountain.

No one's saying anything about my Hyrule.  :'(

Bboy94

Quote from: Haritsuke Halloween on April 30, 2007, 02:20:02 PM

No one's saying anything about my Hyrule.  :'(
Huh? You posted something? I never noticed...

Marcamillian

I was taking to a mate about this and i realiesed something.

*spoiler* if you havn't played up to the goron temple in TP




The bit where colin gets captured by the moblin on hogback... there sould be more sidequests like those.

Rather than just goind through collecting the 4 whatevers (mirror shards/shadow mask things) you need to progress there sould be sidequests that interrupt you. If you ignore the sidequest and carry on on your search then you get one item/story and then you do the sidequest OR if you do the sidequest first it gives you a different item or story and then you do the dungeon but the item/story that you could have got is gone. This could even effect your path through the temple. ... one path for the sidequest first and one for temple first.

Most satisfying bit is that the NPC's could be effected by this.  If you save someones daughter on a sidequest then you can go and visit them in town etc. Then hyrule would be personal to you and the choices you made... and add replay value