Your Continuity theory?

[Hero Link]

What i think is the right timeline.

TMC >> OoT (Timesplit) MM >> ALLTP >> LA >> FS >> FSA >> OOS >> OOA.

          TP >> TWW >> PH >> LoZ >> AOL.
(Did i miss something?)  :-\

1. Link goes defeat Vaati and seals him, in the sword. (I saw someone who asked, that why they have the Four Sword and creates The Master Sword? Because if someone takes the Four Sword out, Vaati will break free, so they had to create a new holy sword.)

2. Link travels in time and defeats Ganondorf in the future, causing a time paradox. Zelda sends Link back to his original time.

3. Link saves Termina from be destroyed by the moon.

4. Ganondorf finds the Triforce ( And about in the intro, who tells about The Imprisoning War, is not about OoT, because if it was the retelling of OoT, it would say, that Ganondorf only got power and got defeated by a boy, who hold The Sword Of Evil Bane. But it says that they could not find anyone, who could be the holder of the sword, so it is another story.) and gets sealed in the Dark World by the 7 Wise Men. ................. And Link kills Ganon and claims The Triforce.

5. Link awakens in Koholint Island and must wake The Wind Fish. Link fought the Nightmares and the Island disapperes. (I am pretty sure its after ALTTP, because one of Link's nightmares, is Aghunim and Ganon.)

6. The seal has weakend and Vaati kidnaps Zelda, so Link takes the Four Sword and seals Vaati in the Four Sword again.

7. Months after FS, Shadow Link kidnaps the 7 maidens and Zelda. Link takes the Four Sword and has freed Vaati. Link defeats Vaati and Ganon in the end.

8. Link steps into Hyrule Castle and The Triforce gives him a Quest. Link gets transfered to Holodrum and meets Din, The Dancing Girl, but gets kidnapped by Onox. Link defeats Onox in the end.

9. Link meets Nayru, but she got kidnapped by Veran. Link travels through time and defeats her. But Twinora used the remaning souls from Onox and Veran, to resurret Ganon! Link defeats Ganon and peace returns.

Now we take The Future Timeline.

1. Link must save Hyrule, from the darkness that has covered Hyrule, called The Twilight Realm. (We dont know what is going to happend at the end.)

2. Hyrule has been flooded and Link finds Hyrule under The Great Sea. Link finds The Master Sword and uses it to defeat Ganon. The King said that Hyrule shall still be under the sea and tells Link and Zelda, to find a new land.

3. (I have no info about PH. But it is confirmed, that it takes place some months after TWW.)

4. Link must find the 8 pieces of the Triforce Of Wisdom and free Zelda. Link kills Ganon and gets the Triforce Of Power.

5. Impa tells Link, the story about how sleeping princess and has to find the Triforce Of Courage. Link defeated Shadow Link and gets the Triforce Of Courage. Link uses the Triforce piece to awake Zelda and so the legend ends.

[Hi no Seijin]

Okay, so that "TP >> TWW >> PH >> LoZ >> AOL." is not after the Oracle games?  Because if it was, TP takes play only a couple of decades after OoT, and there's no way ALttP and all of that can happen between OoT and TP.

Also, I noticed you said Nayru was kidnapped by Veran.  That's incorrect.  Veran possessed Nayru.  That's not kidnapping.

And the point you made in ALttP about how OoT isn't the Imprisoning War, legends change over time.  The Imprisoning War could very well by OoT, but with many twists in it.

[Hero Link]

I see... Thanks for telling me that.  ;D

[darkphantomime]

Hmm, I wonder why so many people are lead to believe that Minish Cap takes place first in the timeline, when there is in fact, very little possibility of that, and nothing in OoT hints  that the previous game could have been Minish Cap. The same could be said the other way around, as no prominent race that plays a major role in OoT appears in Minish cap.

[Hero Link]

Because some things are similar, to OoT. Like the Ocarina! Its blue, but it is used to call a bird, to transport Link, to other places fast. I know its name is Ocarina Of Wind, but the Goddesses, could have changed its powers, so it became the Ocarina Of Time. Wait.... The Goddesses just dont turn it back like that! Maybe TMC was after MM, because in ALTTP, Link also gets a Ocarina, that calls a bird, to transport him, fast to another place, or.....? :-X

[LadyNintendo]

I'll post my theory soon, but just to keep you occupied:

FSA comes before ALTTP. The Trident is all the evidence I need.

And TMC could easily be before OOT. The fact most races aren't in it, doesn't mean they don't exist. Why would Ganondorf want the Triforce if he could get the equally powerful Lightforce, something that does not get shattered? If we put TMC first, then it is explained why he didn't try to get it or possibly even knows of it: because Vaati still has it and he is locked away. The Hylian shield of OOT might be the last reference to it before it gets completely forgotten. Because TP's Hylian Shield is without a fourth triangle, possibly because people forgot about it and just removed "that awkward, pointless thing" from the shield's design.

OOT could come earlier, but TMC has a bigger chance of being first. Besides, just because OOT once was the first game doesn't mean it will forever be.

[darkphantomime]

Heh, not really a very valid point. I always thought that the lightforce  was basically the same thing as the triforce. Your gonna haveto go a whole lot more in depth. People can be easily swayed by the appearance of a new game, that it could be the first. When in fact, there is very little evidence to support that conclusion.

[LadyNintendo]

uuum, say what? "People can be easily swayed by the appearance of a new game, that it could be the first"? There are people out there who believe the first game is in fact the first legend. Besides that, after OOT, SEVEN games have been released. And except for TMC, no one believes one of them could be before OOT.

Why wouldn't it be a valid point? There's more reason to assume TMC comes before OOT than the other way around. Or do you have any reasons to assume otherwise? Please tell them, discussion is always good.

Finally, the Lightforce and the Triforce are not the same. They may be the same thing together, but in their current states, they are not. The Lightforce has the power of the Triforce, but was being held by Zelda only, and Vaati took most of it with him when he got imprisoned. So that means no one after that could have it, while the Trifroce clearly does get into Ganondorf's, Link's and Zelda's possesion. Do I need to go on?

[Hero Link]

Maybe The Lightforce, is the source, that Zelda can use powerfull magic...

[darkphantomime]

Heh... actually if you look in most of the other early zelda games, we see that the triforce hasn't really been divided among 3 people.

I think it's more likely to assume that the Minish Cap takes place post Windwaker and Phantom Hourglass. The fact is, there is no direct conclusion of exactly WHERE it could be in the tiimeline, so for all we know it takes place before the Oracles.

Actually, when you think about it, before OoT was released, LttP was thought to be the first. The reason was is that it actually took place a century BEFORE the original Legend of Zelda.

It's probably more practical and simpler to just place OoT as first, as it's really the one that we've seen to have the most evidence for being the first in the entire timeline. Minish Cap actually places more along the lines of a gaiden, a sidequest. After all, the actual corruption of Hyrule, as it has been, has always been in the lines of Ganon. Vaati is a relatively new character, so it's a little contradictory to assume him as the first, and hence, primary evil force.

[LadyNintendo]

I'm giving my opinion on the timeline tomorrow. I need to go sleep soon. Anyway, what you are saying is that the Triforce and Lightforce could be the same thing? Then we're still missing the middle part. What happened with it and why.

Why do people think Ganon is the true baddy? He may have the oldest rights in our world, but what about Hyrule? We do not know. In fact, looking at the "evidence" in FSA, I'd say they're pretty equal. Vaati even possibly outsmarted Ganon in FSA.

I do not care about the bigger storyline, because it only exists out of minor connections between the indiviual games. Just give me ONE reason/theory why OOT would have to be before TMC. That's all I ask.

[darkphantomime]

1. We see Link grow up to be who he is, at the beginning, there is no legend stating the possibility of previous heroes. On the other hand, with TMC it's stated that there was at least ONE previous hero. Which is evidence enough for me. It's even more likely that the power of the master sword was transformed into the four sword, rather than the other way around. Because then we see the Four sword and mastersworld alternating betwixt each other.

We see the introduction of Link and all the important themes displayed in OoT, while with MC, it's more along the lines that your already familiar with that type of play...

Not to mention, but the Oracles from the Oracle games appear as a cameo.

What we actually have here with OoT, is the origins story, and the point at which all notable characters first appear.

And besides...

If minish cap were first, then I've got a hunch that OoT can't be second.

Another thing, OoT is the only point at which the war dividing hyrule is mentioned. We don't see that kind of history with any other game, except with the possible exception of MM.

[Zelda Veteran]

Well, I have no general opinion, seeing as how you guys confuse the hell outta me :-X Im just going to say that i beleive OoT came first. I know I know, its cleched, but it makes a lot of sense. I believe the Last one in the series is LoZ.

[Hero Link]

i Think that AOL is the last one. He needs to find The Triforce Of Courage and Ganon, has to be resurrected, by dropping blood, of the one who killed him.

[LadyNintendo]

Sorry, not possible. AOL clearly comes after LOZ.

Df: Do you honestly believe that whatever game came first, featured the first Link? Even if OOT would be the first game, I highly doubt that was the first Link. (In fact, I never believed he was the first Link even before TMC was released.) There is sort of a mentioning of an earlier hero. One that apparently failed, looking at Kaepora Gaebora's awkward quote in the beginning of the game. One thing is for certain, the world of Hyrule has been there for a very long time already and bad things already happened in the past. It's not unlikely a hero emerged before.

The Four Sword and the Master Sword are definetely not the same sword. In FSA, Ganon got locked up inside the Four Sword and escaped somewhere between then and ALTTP. Wouldn't it have been wise for him to take the sword with him when he escaped, if that was the one sword that could defeat him? There are times I question his intelligence, but I do not think he would leave such an important device just lying when he escaped. And I also highly doubt he is the one who hid the Master Sword in the forest.

And I repeat again: OOT is not about the beginning of the world. There have been ages, millenia before that.

Same thing goes for the Oracles. They seem to me just ancestors of the ones from OOx. They could be the same ones, but you gotta admit a lot of other characters at least cannot be the same ones. So why would they be? I repeat, ancestors of the ones of OOx, not the same.

And why couldn't TMC be before the war? I don't know of any time-related quotes that say: "And Hyrule was founded after the war of races."